No gambit your not the only one Tongue Out Btw I think I saw yours while I was searching for Dice Rollers in C#. Not bad, no source code though. I am assuming it was the same Gambit anyways. jj5 im re-reading the code. I have another problem though, I have 3 parameters passed to my roll method one of them is Dice Mod .. it allows me to add a modifier to the die rolls. Its mainly for RPG stuff but, the problem I have is its getting added to each roll rather than to the total of the rolls.