Channel 9 - Discussions by Arran http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 - Discussions by Arran http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Arran/Discussions Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Arran/Discussions en Thu, 23 May 2013 13:17:59 GMT Thu, 23 May 2013 13:17:59 GMT Rev9 0 0 0 Coffeehouse - Its true: Bungie Announces Independence http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=12835

Will be very interesting to see what games they do next....and for which platform!

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http://blogs.msdn.com/jgalasyn/archive/2007/10/03/net-framework-source-code-to-be-released.aspx

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Dr Herbie wrote:
I've decided I can't keep up with this, so I'm now going to worry about it.
We only moved our code up from NET1.1 to NET2 in the last year and we don't expect our customers to go for Vista for a long while yet so there's no point in looking at WPF or WCF.



Just wondering why you are linking .NET 3 to Vista?  We started moving a very large project and a new project to .NET 3 over a year ago and have gained so much from WPF and Workflow Foundation.  We deploy our software onto Win2k3 for web and windows services.  Also XP Clients for the WPF Application front end.  Not a vista PC in sight!

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Am very happy to hear that the apps are WPF as well.

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Minh wrote:
Remoting is a pain in the a&& to work with.

Not only do you go through all the config headaches, you have to distribute your server-side DLL onto the client (to serve as a "proxy") so you don't even get instant update like a web app.

Use WCF -- I hear it's just much better.

Or just build a Web service.

Stay away from Remoting It's a dead-end technology.


You don't need to put your server .dlls on the client at all.  If you have a good solution which all objects in a shared assembly that will be sent by value over the remoting link then you are fine.  If you do ByRef method calls or object manipulation then keep your interfaces in the shared assembly as well.

I have used remoting as the core communication for a very large .net project and it works really well.  I am however looking at upgrading the whole lot to WCF for some of the more advanced features they have introduced.

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However not having Web and Blend on there is a really bad move.  They are both very major tools for developers.  Blend mostly as it is the only good/productive way to develop WPF UIs.

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In the end it turned out it would not install because i had the following installed:

Office 2003 Web Components
and
Expression Web Designer beta 1.

Once i got rid of them it installed fine.

This is probably not the cause of your issue, as i did not have a problem uninstalling the Beta 2 TR version....but still quite anoying all the same.

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All signed up for 4!

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Charles wrote:
RC1 is, well, RC1. So, it's feature complete with beta 2 bug fixes, but not ready for Prime Time. It's no different than any othe RC1 quality software release. It's a release candidate which means we think it's a candidate for RTM, but it's not the RTM build...

Your feedback and bug reports will be most helpful, as always.

C


By saying that it is/was a candidate for RTM does that not mean at some point someone thought it could be the RTM release?  Is that not what RC originally was used for?  Dont get me wrong, i am really looking forward to getting my hands on it as soon as its out on MSDN.  I used Beta2 on my production PC for quite a while and only got rid of it when a new .net 3 ctp came out.  So far i am loving Vista. 

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Imagine trying to learn the in's and out's of a very expensive piece of software without a corp PO to just buy it for you.

For the record i am not a student and purchase a large amount of software quite often.  Both for a company and for personal use.  However i can understand how some people would have a lot of difficulty getting access to totally legal software so they can learn and get some experience in order to get a job.  This is why i think products like VS Express and the Unlimited Time Maya (final renders are watermarked) trail are the best way forward and can help a lot more people get experience with these tools.

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W3bbo wrote:
If Microsoft wants their Expression suite to be popular with the designers of the future, they are going to have to let it work its way around the warez sites, it's why Dreamweaver and Photoshop are so popular. If "kiddies" can't get used to the software at a young age, what reason do they have to buy it without knowing how to use it?

It's sad, but true. Name one expensive and popular DCC app that didn't spread like wildfire around sites like Astalavista.


I agree totally with this.  This is why i think the Express products were a step in the right direction. 

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jsampsonPC wrote:
I went to see it with my Sister In Law, and two Brothers In Law.

The movie was pretty good, but the ending pissed me off just a bit. It was unsuspected, yes, but left me wanting more, more, more I tell you!

I'm just glad that they basically promised a Third Movie with the ending that we saw on the second, so that is comforting.


The 3rd film was filmed the same time as the 2nd and will be out next year!

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I spent a while last night setting everything up downloading Vista, longhorn and office beta 2.

Got a nice new top of the range laptop to run vista as its primary OS.

Then i come into work this morning all ready to burn the DVDs and install....i go to request the product keys and the MSDN site keeps saying "Application Error" whenever i try to get any Vista Keys (however i did manage to get the Longhorn Server keys)!

guess i have to wait a while longer until they fix the issue!

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Well...thats it confirmed that office will be out any time now...Vista should be the same. 

think i will be making a point of watching the keynote.

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Cybermagellan wrote:
What is interesting is the fact that some people notice that from the screenshots posted on

 http://screenshots.winfuture.de/1148366757.jpg

That it has an exipiration date of 5/31/07...my question if Microsoft was planning on shipping on sometime Jan 07 what is Jun 07 even needed


I would not read too much into the expire date.  From my experiance they tend to set very far in the future dates.  I am sure there were quite a few builds of VS 2005 & SQL 2005 that expired a long while after the expected delivery date.

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littleguru wrote:


When is it coming public? Any news?

Btw. when is the WinHEC opening?


Damn, I want this beta so badly.



WinHEC runs today until Thursday.

I know the betas are not in the registration goody bag like they were last time.  But apparently that is because the CDs are not ready.

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rhm wrote:

Arran wrote:
rhm wrote: Yes, and my point is that you don't get 60Gb of music for 10ukp, everyone should know that however unsavy they are.

Perhaps you should take a look at Napster's website and see if you think it's clear enough instead of defending people who obviously just have an axe to grind.


Maybe you should learn to read,
 

I should learn to read? Oh harsh. I wonder how I got so far in life without reading. Hmmm.

Arran wrote: then you would see that i was not definding anyone.  If you look at my posts it is simply pointing out that subscription does not always mean the same thing as blowdart suggested.


So you're saying that if Y attacks X and then you attack Y, you are not at all defending X? No, of course, you were just pointing out an incorrect definition of "subscription" by offering a completely spurious example of your own.




Being able to read on a word basis and actually reading are not the same thing.  Your post is of course flawed again, as most of yours are.

1 - I did not attack anyone.
2 - I also did not say my example was the definition.  Just an example, showing the previous definition was incorrect.

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rhm wrote:
Yes, and my point is that you don't get 60Gb of music for 10ukp, everyone should know that however unsavy they are.

Perhaps you should take a look at Napster's website and see if you think it's clear enough instead of defending people who obviously just have an axe to grind.


Maybe you should learn to read, then you would see that i was not definding anyone.  If you look at my posts it is simply pointing out that subscription does not always mean the same thing as blowdart suggested.

you cant make the sort of assumption that 'everyone should know'.  Everyone should know that requesting ring tones by SMS sign you up for a subscription service.  But they dont.  So reglations state that it has to be spelled out to people in a large amount of detail.  And as you seem to have issues in understanding...i will say again....i am not saying that this is something napster does not do....just that any service like it must do it. 

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I cant say i have ever used napster, so i dont know how obvious it is that when you end the subscription you lose access to content, but for the common user it needs to be very obvious and if its not then it could be viewed has mis-marketing their service.

And the problem is they do market to non tech users.  People are ignorant of copywrite law all the time.  The way most people see it is you can record off TV and rewatch.

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