Outlook 2010 added the new flattened conversation view (which only indents/branches at forks).  I like this view a lot since it combines the best of tree view with the tidiness old default view.

However if you like the old conversation tree view, just go to the View tab in the ribbon, click "Conversation Settings" and then click "Use Classic Indented View."

Unless I misunderstood what you want...

Other reasons why one product might have difference services.

• Different privilege level requirements
• Security/Defense-in-depth reasons (aka isolation)
• Different start-up/lifetime configurations
• Per-machine versus per-user instancing
• Dependence on incompatible libraries (i.e. different CLR versions)

That's just off the top of my head.  There are probably dozens of other reasons someone might have for doing this.  Perhaps none of them apply in this case, just speaking hypothetically since this question was asked.

That said, I have Live Essentials 2011 and I only see one service, the Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant (well, and a Mesh-specific service which isn't even running).

RLO said:

Tfraser, I assume that the reason you have this complaint is that you are manually adjusting lab computers in your job environment, and as such you are going to every machine and applying these adjustments?  Hence your complaints about the mouse? 

I'm pretty sure most of the mouse software packages (IntelliPoint, Logitech's SetPoint, etc) let you change this behavior.  Don't think Windows has a built-in option for it though.

littleguru said:

One thing that I don't like about the search in 7 is that you need to know all these words, like for example "kind". I would have never guessed that "kind:picture" works after all. It's hard to discover, in my eyes. It's powerful, that's for sure, but still hard to discover.

It would be nice to have a UI that gives me all these keywords so that I could build (by clicking on checkboxes, or something similar) the queries. And I mean all keywords and not just some of them, like the current drop down does...

Other than that I'm really happy with the search that's included in 7. It's fast, seems to use less resources and I quite never use dir /s again

But we have that UI.  When you click in the search box, it suggests filters like "artist" (for the music library) or "type" and so on.  If you make the search box bigger, you'll see more of them.

If you want to learn others, there are documents online describing all of them.

androidi said:

stevo_ said:

*snip*

As far as I know, there already is an index of the file and folder names. It's called "MFT". And if I'm using the search built into Windows shell to find files from the MFT I'd say that I'm using Windows search. The whole point of the new/secondary index (WDS/WS4.0) is that if the user is interested to quickly find something about *FILE CONTENTS* and since I'm not I'm going to stick with the MFT index. But in Windows 7 there appears to be a serious bottleneck in searching the MFT and it's not the 7200 rpm disk but the CPU! So yes by this argument, Windows search is unfit indeed.

Searching unindexed locations, even if not searching file contents, still searches file properties.  That's why doing a grep / unindexed search is slower than doing a "dir /s" via the command prompt.  However, it shouldn't be much slower.  On my laptop it takes at most 20 seconds to search for "shell32" in my Windows directory.  And it's even faster if I do a "name:shell32" search.

While not as fast as dir /s, we definitely made the grep searching significantly faster in Windows 7 versus Vista.

androidi said:

AndyC said:

*snip*

You make it sound like indexing should be enabled by default everywhere. Why it isn't then? I'm not going to bother* with indexing external drives because I haven't seen any mention that the indexing was designed this scenario in mind. For all I know, taking the drive and modifying it elsewhere when the index was still being built before detaching it could either lead to a restart of indexing from scratch or incorrect results. I don't want to make a 2nd guess about the results, the results are either always correct even in edge cases (modifying the disk with a disk editor could be exception to this as it's not mounting the volume) or the indexing stays off.

PS. All my drives are external, with the indexing only enabled in the system partition.

* I assume the indexing folks have already bothered to test their product and saw that it's not fit to enable it except in few places on the system drive with assumption that system drive is internal.

That's not quite correct.  If you are regularly detaching the drive, then maybe you don't want it indexed.  But if it's an external data drive and that's where you keep your music / pictures / videos / documents / etc, then you should add those locations on that drive to your libraries.  Then they will automatically be indexed and searching via the library will be very rich and very fast.  If you don't add locations to your libraries, then Windows doesn't know that you care about them.

fknight said:

I bought Vista Ultimate because I needed to be able to RDP into my machine (please, step off with the "just use VNC")

Now, granted it's only a $20 difference between the Windows 7 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate Upgrade pricing, but now that Windows 7 Pro has remote desktop and I don't need Ultimate -- does anyone know if Windows Vista Ultimate --> Windows 7 Professional is a supported upgrade path or will I need to do a full install?  If the latter, I'd rather just pay the extra $20 and get Ultimate, as reconfiguring/reinstalling everything ain't worth $20 in savings.

 

fknight, you can buy the Win7 Professional upgrade disc, but you'll need to do a full install (which will more your Windows, Program Files, and Users folders into a "Windows.old" directory).

jamie said:

Sven Groot said:

*snip*

i get it - except apple sells for 30$ and 129$

not 200 and 300$  ..and the ever present Staples - $499! - ask an assistant

the pre-order prices - are GREAT - thats what windows should cost - basically 50 to 99 dollars

 

* i must admit - allowing the relase candidate to run for a year - and announcing pricing (above) for pre-order - brilliant

id hate to be someone who missed that offer though

Jamie - OS X costs more than Win7.  OS X costs $129 or more for the upgrade version from Tiger.  Win7 costs $119 for the upgrade from XP or Vista.

Yes, Snow Leopard is cheaper, but it's been less than two years since Leopard came out, and it's basically a gloified service pack (basically of the features it ships were included in XP SP2 / Server 2003).  So they're basically doing the same thing MS did when they sold Windows 98 SE for $20 to Windows 98 users.

Professional is an even better deal compared to Apple, because they charge $399 for Apple Remote Deskop (which includes the RDP + Group Policy equivalents).

harumscarum said:

Charles said:

*snip*

32 on home because I don't want to deal with the possibility of any issues (which is why Im still on XP).

 

Work well that just depends on the client.

I am all 64-bit on all of my machines... except for my test machine at work since it's generally easier to debug.

My laptop (Sony Vaio Z) and my HP TouchSmart at home both came with 64-bit versions of Vista.

W3bbo said:

Don't get a touchscreen for desktop use, it's a gimmick. If you want to do it properly, get a Cintiq.

Instead go get yourself a good quality 24" display, like the Apple LED Cinema Display.

I have an HP TouchSmart 22" at home.  It is most definitely NOT a gimmick.  I use it every day.  The machine has the included wireless keyboard in front of it, and I stash the mouse away since it's not needed.

Now, I don't do work on this machine.  I do light web browsing, e-mail, IM, some media playback, and that's about it.  It's on a high table by the window near my kitchen, so I'm generally standing while I use it.  I read news on it every morning and I love being able to walk up to it, tap on some links, pan through the pages, etc.  It runs in high DPI so the text is readable from a bit of distance too.  Working with a set up like that with the mouse is pretty uncomfortable and cramps my wrist.

For a workstation / typical desk set up, it may not be very useful.  But I just moved to a new (small-ish) apartment, and so I got rid of my desktop PC which I realized I was never using anymore.  When I work it's either at my office or on my laptop, and I don't really play games these days, so the TouchSmart made perfect sense and I really like how it fits into my lifestyle.

Oh yeah, I got mine refurbished for $900 (looks and works as brand new).

W3bbo said:

Ray7 said:

*snip*

Premier is available for the Mac. And all of Apple's current computers are x64. The MacBook Pros all come with non-TN panels, which is important for an accurate picture, yet most consumer laptops have TN panels, so I wonder how she justified that.

...but wait, all of the people shown in the adverts are buying a laptop almost at a whim after "testing it out" for a few seconds in a retail store. Where's the detailed pre-purchase research? A $2000 laptop is an investment, she should have decided what she was getting before going into the store (and buying online is invariably cheaper anyway).

W3bbo -

Current Macs ship with x64 processors, but they don't have a 64-bit OS yet.  That's probably the most significant change in Snow Leopard.    

yman said:

BHpaddock said:

*snip*

One could probably argue that Avid Media Composer is the industry standard, although it's facing heavy competition in the independent sector by Final Cut Pro. I think I've remember reading somewhere that in general Media Composer is run on more PCs than Macs.

However, Media Composer is more turn-key and Avid like you to purchase computer ranges which they personally support. Adobe Premiere is probably the better option to run on an off-the-shelf machine.

W3bbo said:

Dr Herbie said:

*snip*

I just watched the advert... she claims to be a filmmaker, yet goes for Vista, even though the MacBook she touched on met all of her requirements and runs FinalCut Pro?

I do video editing as a hobby and took classes on it in college.  Sony Vegas is way better than Final Cut Pro and has been for a long time.  Plus on a PC you have the option of running the really fance effects programs like Combustion.

ManipUni said:

BitLocker will only slow an attacker down, which ultimately is its benefit. It secures in the same way a wall safe safeguards your valuables, it just adds minutes that the bad guys have to use getting to them. No security is foolproof and never will be.

Microsoft's secure computing initative was meant to "solve" these issues but since it wasn't widely adopted for a fair number of legitimate reasons then you're on your own.

If you really want your data secure then frankly don't let your laptop/machine get taken to begin with. After they have your machine they will get the data out of it. End of story.

PS - OS wide encryption is snake oil anyway. Just use either per file encryption or per partition, then you'll get strong encryption without the by-design holes in it. Or better remotely download (and expire) files as needed over a secure pipe.

Sven Groot said:

Evil SEO said:

*snip*

Sorry, still no repro. I type "wondows" (which ends up selecting windows anyway because it's the only entry with a W), then press home which returns it to the first item in the list, then "windows" which selects windows again. There's no beeping at all.

I repro'd it, but it only happens if you start typing stuff, then press Home, and then press another key really fast.  I can barely do it on my laptop's keyboard because I have to hold the Fn key in order to hit Home.  Even on my desktop the time it takes to move my hand to the Home key is long enough for the type ahead to reset.

The behavior changed because the list view control used in the Win7 Explorer is a brand new control written from scratch.  I'm guessing the old behavior was just a quirk of the design, but I wasn't around then, so maybe it was intentional.  I'll mention it to the people who own that new control, but unfortunately it's a bit late to change anything that doesn't impact a significant number of people (and that has an easy workaround... just hit Home and then wait half a second or so until it resets).

Koogle said:

littleguru said:

*snip*

"Haha... this is funny."

laugh it up I can see you enjoy it

"First you claim something that could be easily checked and you didn't. "

So?.. yeah I didn't bother checking ( I guess from memory Chrome didn't seem so rubbish in that area) ... maybe I should just remove this 1 line "and only 1 chrome.exe process" ...the post still stands to make the point that IE is crap and so are the lack of decent improvements in Win7.

"Something is very suspicious: it seems that a lot of people see tabs crash in IE. Why is that?"

I believe 'they' the IE team, blame it on 3rd party addons as the main culprit for IE crashing problems.. yeah blame it on developers who do actually bother wasting there time developing addons for such a platform..  its not like there is a flooding of any decent IE addons just tons of crappy toolbars.

Sven Groot said:

Can't say I've ever seen that in Vista. Then again I don't have nearly as many icons in my quick launch, so maybe that has something to do with it. 

Sven Groot said:

PaoloM said:

*snip*

The Windows 7 beta is definitely not usual. With the previous Windows betas I felt involved. With this one I feel like a statistic, just there so someone at MS can tick off the "external testing" box on the list.

I'm not saying our feedback isn't getting listened to (it probably is) but in the previous beta you saw the product grow and evolve over time, you saw them make changes based on feedback and then we could say "nah, actually this doesn't work" and they'd change it again. A nice little feedback loop there.

In this beta we got one build, we send some feedback, and then we get one more chance to check if they got it right with the RC build, at which point history tells me it's too late to get anything significantly changed (and if, like you're implying, they're taking the meaning of RC literally this time there's absolutely no chance of changing anything). No feedback loop at all, just a single line.

The fact that being in Asia has made it impossible to attend even just one of the live chats (they've all been around 3 AM for me) also doesn't help make me feel connected with this beta, but that obviously isn't Microsoft's fault.

At the end of the day, when I look at 2000, XP and Vista, I can say, I helped make that better. A tiny bit of me, no matter how insignificant, is in there. With Windows 7, I don't think I'll feel the same way.

Windows 7 is by far the best OS to come out of MS in years. The quality level of the beta build is astounding, and it'll be a great product once released. But for all that, they sure managed to take the fun out of beta testing.

W3bbo said:

Maddus Mattus said:

*snip*

But the changes between 1.1 and 2.0 of the BCL are minimal.

...unless you mean bringing things up to standard, like swapping out ArrayList for List<T> ?

jamie said:

W3bbo said:

*snip*

re - web folders

i remember i got that to work back in the day - and it rocked.

but it was in nashville or something and it just... went away

Maddus Mattus said:

ManipUni said:

*snip*

define eventually,...

1 year?

10 years?

100 years?

1000 years?

How concrete is the problem now?

Not really, since we have no shortages,.. Hell the OPEC actually dropped the production rate of oil by 40%!

So is it wise to set all our money and will to a problem that will eventually arise?
Or should we put our will to something that is allready a problem? Like world hounger, or aids, or the global financial crisis, or poverty, or war?

What's the return on investment with these alernative means of energy concretely?
That we can keep the earth habitable till 2410 instead of 2400? IF we are responsible for the problem at all?

It's a $$$ guzzling industry wich deals in air! My personal opinion is that is has ZERO return on investment.

P.S. before you all go spouting at me that I don't care about the enviroment; there is nothing wrong with keeping your pollution in check, but it has to be proportional,.. Now, it's not,..