Re: JAOO 2007: Erik Meijer and Dave Thomas - Objects, Functions, Virtual Machines, IDEs and Other Fun Stuff [JAOO 2007: Erik Meijer and Dave Thomas - Objects, Functions, Virtual Machines, IDEs and Other Fun St]

Balclutha — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:05:38 GMT

"I mean I think the .Net library is great. It is wide, but does not really feel fat to me. I mean how does a functional language help you call something like Dns.GetHostEntry() any better?"

You’re right. If you need a library function like Dns.GetHostEntry() who gives a damn if it’s being called from IronPython or C#. It’s there because people need it, not because of static or dynamic typing.

I thought his objection to fat libraries was that developers should think about the problem more, and that given appropriate languages they can build precisely what they need for their app. themselves without necessarily modelling every aspect in OO and/or automatically falling back on a large stack of OO frameworks.

Having said that, I've never really worked with frameworks like Spring or Hibernate so I don't know how bad the problem is. What are other people's experiences with these kind of frameworks? Good for technical-publishers or good for developers?

In .Net’s case I’d agree that the library weight is muscle, not fat; it’s there to do work for people – though with time it's naturally going to become more convoluted.

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