Yeah mostly Microsoft developed it. It's just a Visual Studio plugin. I think you Visual Studio 2013 to use it though. I haven't tried it yet, but from the description it looks pretty decent.
Yeah it would be awesome. Totally awesome for us maybe, but completely f**king retarded from a business sense for Microsoft. Windows XP cannibalizes enough sales of newer versions of Windows without even being open source. Ironically it probably makes more sense to open source Windows 8.1 (because of the alternate revenue streams besides licensing), but still a pretty bad idea.
Microsoft is actually fairly intelligent with their decisions of what they open source and not. They probably consider if it something they can sell as a proprietary product and make a non-trivial amount of money, it's probably not going to end up open source. If having it used broadly and have a community around it is more important, it's going to probably end up as open source. This true for Google's and pretty any company's open source strategy by the way.
If you think about it, giving money to a church is worse that what this guy did cus the bible says,
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13 KJV)
I'm not sure how the bible gets a free pass on wanting to kill gays.
What I don't get is how the * did we end up in a situation where so many people, for millennia followed this like it's 'One True Source For Everything, All Other Opinions Are Hearsay And Must Be Eliminated'. What a mindfuck. Ooops I just threw down some controversy. Is it really that controversial any more?
But seriously, just imagine how the world be if the West discovered the scientific method just a few centuries earlier. Which might have been realistic if certain religious authorities didn't go all thought police on people with different opinions. I'd probably have my own badass ti-fighter spaceship with plasma cannons and sh!t and of course robot sidekicks. Why the f*ck did you take this away from me, stupid ancestors? Why?
Something like these:
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/ ($1999 model)
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9530/pd ($2079 model, the advertisement on the top seems a bit deceptive)
I <3 high resolution, high quality screen.
This would also be good too, but I'd wait till the next iteration (isn't it like over a year old by now?):
And use Crouton to break out of the ChromeOS sandbox.
Apr 06, 2014 at 12:02 PM
I don't know man. Zero-license fee is a pretty big deal. That's a huge selling point of Linux gone. I'm pretty confused on what Microsoft intends to get out of this though besides "suffocating" the competition. What is notable is it is not FOSS: price is subject to change. So one thing they could do and might be planning to do is to charge whatever the hell they want if they somehow gain a monopoly or some leverage on embedded. Like oops, it's not free now, pay us $20 per license. Like the "drug deal, first hit is free" deal.They can do this because Windows has it's own API, you start writing code against it you have no choice but to continue using it. Linux on the hand, can never go up in price - and it implements a more POSIX-y API which works on numerous operating systems, well, pretty much all other OSes besides Windows.....
The whole thing is kind of concerning, but I think it wouldn't be successful because people already build embedded stuff on Linux and I don't see any compelling reason they'll switch to Windows just because it's free now. It's worth noting that Windows Embedded was always cheap: $3 or so, and possible to negotiate it down further on large projects. Price is a factor of course, but probably just a factor. There is also a very large distrust of Microsoft in the tech industry when they do stuff like this, which didn't exist as much in the early-mid 90s when they played this game harder and just people took the soothsaying more readily. So I think it won't work. Well, I hope it won't work. :)
Apr 06, 2014 at 11:46 AM
This just a guess but what I hope MS does is offers a Windows IoT that is like a Linux core that a developer can grab and add custom stuff to it and then offer that package for sale. So it would be very much like WRT, someone takes WIN IoT and writes router code that runs on the core and replaces some of the base IP handling and extends it to make a top rate router appliance that you can install on some device.
I think it would still piss off people working on Linux embedded stuff because the way to work with POSIX APIs and the way you work with Windows is not necessarily a transferable skill. Or I will say, unfortunately Microsoft decided to invent its own API instead of following an international standard.
It's a bit threatening to Linux for Microsoft to give away Windows, since that really is one of Linux's huge "selling points", right? Of Microsoft can do whatever they want, but actions like these are going to produce deep hatred of Microsoft and maybe anti-trust complaints if it does enough damage to the existing industry - remember the last time Microsoft gave a huge thing away for free? IE? Netscape? Remember? :)
I don't think it will though because Linux is flexible enough that it rely on things other then its freeness in the embedded market. It has a huge ecosystem of developers and you know a kernel that can be tailored to almost any purpose. Windows is new to that game with the MinWin stuff, and I believe not nearly at the level of Linux's flexibility yet. And it's not like Windows for embedded purposes wasn't cheap before. So if it had a huge advantage, the price wasn't a huge factor to using it. But we will see. It's certainly the biggest "blow" to Linux I've seen in awhile coming from Microsoft. We will see. :)