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	<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 05:44:45 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Democrat and Republican lambasted Apple for working the system in a way they said was unfair, if not unpatriotic.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Democrat-and-Republican-lambasted-Apple-for-working-the-system-in-a-way-they-said-was-unfair-if-not-/39555505dac74c5bae51a1c70023454f">6 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/evildictaitor">evildictait​or</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>So? If Google closes their London Headquarters, it'll make literally zero impact to the UK government, <strong>because they don't pay any taxes here</strong>.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Agreed, except that I wasn't talking about subsidiaries (if you could move a subsidiary elsewhere, there wouldn't be a reason to have a subsidiary in the first place).</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>The argument that &quot;Oh, we'll just leave then&quot; completely doesn't hold water if you're not actually putting anything back into the economy.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>The main contribution of a large corporation to the community is in terms of employment (and employees pay income taxes). It's not just the direct headcount of the corporation itself: there are legions of smaller businesses that work almost exclusively for that corporation and its employees. These can employ at least&nbsp;as many people as the corporation they cater for, and often a lot more.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>The employees that work at Google aren't going to suddenly find themselves unemployed just because Google close their office there either. We're not talking about employees living on the breadline.</p><p>Similarly if Microsoft said &quot;Come on, boys, we're off to Switzerland&quot;, then most of their employees would quit and join Amazon or Google or other companies in Redmond, and Microsoft will be left a withered husk of its previous self.</p><p>The US would lose some of its political clout, perhaps, for being the place where Microsoft is registered, but it'll lose bugger all in terms of taxation (since Microsoft pays so little tax), the employees will by-and-large find other companies to work for, or will start new small companies, and literally none of the developers who currently works at Microsoft will be queuing up outside the homeless shelters asking for soup when there's such a high demand for their skillset in the USA.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I seriously doubt that Amazon and Google combined could absorb more than a small percentage of Microsoft's workforce, let alone &quot;most of it&quot;. Just look at what happened with the first few rounds of layoffs.</p><p>There are other things I strongly disagree with in your post, but it would be pointless to discuss them: neither Microsoft nor Google nor Apple are going anywhere, simply because the US government will bend over backwards to make sure they don't.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>This is all corporate FUD. Society doesn't need multinationals half as much as they need <em>us</em>. And if you're not going to pay tax or you'll move to Switzerland, then get out and stay out. And we'll tax your products when you try and sell your products to our citizens at the border via customs like we do with other foreign goods.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>It's not a matter of how valuable&nbsp;individuals are to society, it's a matter of contractual power. Rich as you may be, your income tax is probably little more than a rounding error in the fiscal budget of your country, which means that your government is not particularly interested in cutting you a better deal.</p><p>As for import duties, good luck with that (hint: they don't work).</p><p>To sum it up: I am not happy that large corporations - who benefit from all sorts of services rendered by their respective governments - don't think it's right to contribute back. But that's the way things are and there's very little governments can do. They'll apply some pressure, of course, and be content when they get some results (such as Apple announcing they are bringing back some of their manufacturing, for instance). Rinse and repeat. But don't expect an indictment or a drastic change in legislation.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 03:42:24 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Democrat and Republican lambasted Apple for working the system in a way they said was unfair, if not unpatriotic.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Democrat-and-Republican-lambasted-Apple-for-working-the-system-in-a-way-they-said-was-unfair-if-not-#c97aa781e3aa74f1e9b83a1c7001751ed">evildictaitor</a>: the difference is that if you decided to move to a place with low or zero income taxes, your current government wouldn't even bother to send you a &quot;we'll miss you&quot; card.</p><p>If a corporation the size of Microsoft, Apple or Google ever decided to jump ship and move the whole campus to - say - Switzerland, they would cause a collapse in the local economies of the area where they currently operate. Try to imagine how much money it would cost to clean up that mess and you'll see why the US government is willing to bark, but not to bite.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 01:54:17 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Ink</dc:creator>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Is Microsoft risking irrelevancy b/c of lack of POSIX compitability </title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Is-Microsoft-risking-irrelevancy-bc-of-lack-of-POSIX-compitability/99c242febb594d8a9507a1b9009e87a1">5 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/fanbaby">fanbaby</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Is-Microsoft-risking-irrelevancy-bc-of-lack-of-POSIX-compitability#c78be6ff8de134e52aef4a1b90095b5bf">cheong</a>:Very true. I have other examples, starting with C (with the bad hack of mapping \n to \r\n), ...</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>That wasn't a hack, nor was it bad: it&nbsp;was a perfectly compliant implementation of the C standard.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:41:55 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Windows 8,  8&quot; Tablet Leaks</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Windows-8-Tablet-Leaks#cf56df31202a14c4cb81da1b600ed7d05">spivonious</a>: I had a chance to try the iPad Mini, and it's quite&nbsp;good for pretty much anything you would use the iPad for. Except it's a lot easier to carry around, which makes it a brilliant form factor.</p><p>If Acer got the same sweet spot in terms of size, this might be a good device.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 15:25:46 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - I&#39;m not sure I like where this is going.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Im-not-sure-I-like-where-this-is-going#cc52710cdab1a4a45bf1ba1ae0005bac9">Bass</a>: that's true, but I think this is more a matter of perception than privacy. The fact someone can take pictures on the sly doesn't make openly waving a camera any more socially acceptable.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:42:34 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - I&#39;m not sure I like where this is going.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Im-not-sure-I-like-where-this-is-going/44c90ed15de641118613a1ad00250f1e">39 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cheong">cheong</a> wrote</p><p>Maybe some day we'll see &quot;No Google Glass allowed&quot; sign on door of restrooms.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>In case you missed it, <a href="http://the5pointcafe.com/google-glasses-banned/">someone already did</a>&nbsp;and not just on restroom doors.</p><p>Might seem premature, but the problem is real. Aside of the obvious places, like restrooms and changing rooms, I can't think of public places where people would feel comfortable having someone pointing a camera at them.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:21:24 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Deadkit?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Deadkit/2f0378c1776c4bd6b370a196000ac31d">2 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio">DeathBy​VisualStudio</a> wrote</p><p>Gotta wonder how the folks in Oslo are taking this news?</p><p>I would think this was good news for Microsoft as an opportunity for those concerned to move away from the newly forming unknown.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>According to the FAQ, Opera is also moving to the new rendering engine, so I guess they are pretty happy.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 02:45:53 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Ink</dc:creator>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Surface in Japan</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Surface-in-Japan#cc814ad8c82cf45098883a19000f93125">figuerres</a>: that's unfortunately the way things are. And we are just digging ourselves in a deeper hole by using (and abusing) old protocols in all sort of devices.</p><p>Mitigation is all we can hope for at the moment; for instance, I wonder if it wouldn't be a good thing to allow SMTP servers to reject messages unless they originate directly from one of the&nbsp;IP addresses of the sender's domain (something that is specifically forbidden in the current RFC). That alone would make the whole header spoofing business irrelevant and it would improve the effectiveness of blacklisting.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:22:11 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Ink</dc:creator>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - IE11 part of &#39;Blue&#39;</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/IE11-part-of-Blue#c4b8a9b768a904156b45ba18c00248ba9">felix9</a>: ...and a seriously improved html5score, according to winbeta.org (320). Wonder what they added.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/IE11-part-of-Blue/b203c972ca5448989d92a18b0161f9c4">4 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/elmer">elmer</a> wrote</p><p><a href="http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-blue-leaks">http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-blue-leaks</a></p><p>I'm guessing this won't be available for Win7</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>With a rumored release date just a few months away, limiting IE11 to Windows 8&#43; would mean confining it to a pretty small niche. I don't think that's going to happen.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:38:03 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Happy Pi Day! Get 3.14% off the Dell Latitude 10 Tablet‏</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Happy-Pi-Day-Get-314-off-the-Dell-Latitude-10-Tablet/a1aba2247b634f54a5e3a18200bab9ab">8 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/GoddersUK">GoddersUK</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Happy-Pi-Day-Get-314-off-the-Dell-Latitude-10-Tablet#cc2754ca35d49469c8999a1810118eb60">Blue Ink</a>: Pah... the ISO can't tell me what to do!</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Happy-Pi-Day-Get-314-off-the-Dell-Latitude-10-Tablet#c71c8787176ab46198549a1820004551e">Sven Groot</a>: You can't have little pictures in a date, silly!</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Can it at least tell you to live in the right year? <img src='http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/content/images/emoticons/emotion-13.gif?v=c9' alt='Angel' /></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:30:43 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Happy Pi Day! Get 3.14% off the Dell Latitude 10 Tablet‏</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Happy-Pi-Day-Get-314-off-the-Dell-Latitude-10-Tablet/b11a468162814b4693a2a18101113d95">26 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/GoddersUK">GoddersUK</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Happy-Pi-Day-Get-314-off-the-Dell-Latitude-10-Tablet#cdc9ecf07319b4ccb9a1aa18100e61405">Ian2</a>: The date today is 14.3.2012. No ifs. No buts.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>No, it <a href="http://www.xkcd.com/1179/">isn't</a>.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:02:47 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Ink</dc:creator>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Where are the 7 inch Windows 8 tablets?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Where-are-the-7-inch-Windows-8-tablets/2049caf829be4c2fb9a0a17f000f5c0f">10 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/Craig_Matthews">Craig_​Matthews</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>I think putting quotes around 'tablets' was really the way to go, actually. I think at this point, what we call these things is slightly a bit off anyway. We're trying to call something which does more than make phone calls a phone by throwing the word 'smart' in front of it to make 'smartphone' -- and calling anything bigger a tablet, but now we have the form factors meeting up somewhere in the middle around 5-7&quot;. It's really all the same thing now except for one little thing -- the one thing that's left, other than size (which IMO is meaningless now), that really distinguishes a &quot;phone&quot; from a &quot;tablet&quot; --- the appearance of a line item on your bill that says &quot;voice.&quot;&nbsp;</p><p>What happens when we're all using Skype/Facetime/VoIP for all of our calls? Moving toward that trend, at some point, when we're all using VoIP to make a regular calls, the one remaining vestige of &quot;voice service&quot; will probably be the ability to make a reliable and instantly traceable 911 call. It won't be called voice service anymore since we'll all be using VoIP for our calls, we'd only be using their &quot;voice&quot; service for emergency services. So it'll end up being called &quot;emergency services&quot; on our bill.</p><p>So at that point, will we distinguish between a &quot;phone&quot; and a &quot;tablet&quot; based on whether you can call 911 on it?</p><p>I think we should just call them all PDAs with different sizes for different purposes, small, medium, large, grande, venti, whatever.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Personally, I don't care about the items on my bill: I draw the line between devices I can use like a handset and devices that are too large for that. Devices in the first category are&nbsp;&quot;phones&quot; everything else isn't.</p><p>The reason why I think the distinction makes sense is that there are too many use cases where a &quot;phone&quot; is the best solution, either because of privacy, convenience or social acceptance. Just to make an example, video calling has been around for a long time now, and yet I don't think I've ever seen it used in the wild. Things may change in a generation or two, but for the time being there's still a place for devices that are mainly phones and can occasionally make do for other stuff.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:22:56 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Wordpress have suspended my blog!</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Wordpress-have-suspended-my-blog#c622dc333ca90435c8a20a16901713161">Ian2</a>: As I recall, you recently reported an issue with the WP Store due to some alleged copyright infringement. If you did advertise those apps in your blog, or used some screenshots here and there, I guess it's possible that someone complained and got your blog grounded.</p><p>Aside of this, I concur with DCMonkey: a website is just a few&nbsp;pounds these days, and <a href="http://orchardproject.net/">Orchard </a>is your friend...</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:49:33 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - I cringe at those basic math question posted on the web.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/I-cringe-at-those-basic-math-question-posted-on-the-web/f851f53ae547473a947da1660067652b">10 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cheong">cheong</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>I don't have problem for people getting it wrong, but have problem where the teachers teach it without explaining the fundamential reason of doing so.</p><p>Once you know the reason, even if you forgot the order, you can deduce it correctly yourself. It's all related to converting goods to their monetary value. &quot;M&quot;oney is the basis of ancient &quot;M&quot;athematics.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>The problem is that operator precedence is largely a convention; there's no real reason why 3 &#43; 3 * 4 = 15 and not 24; it's just that we decided it has to be that way.</p><p>That's what makes it hard to teach: you can paraphrase it all you want, but the answer is essentially&nbsp;&quot;just because&quot; and that never flies too well with kids.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:31:07 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - I cringe at those basic math question posted on the web.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/I-cringe-at-those-basic-math-question-posted-on-the-web/5f483e602bc143f48620a16500f94bbc">3 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/cbae">cbae</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/I-cringe-at-those-basic-math-question-posted-on-the-web#cb7a0bd8b6b5e47bca10aa16500e8025e">Blue Ink</a>: Kind people come over for good spaghetti. Anybody remember that one?</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I like <a href="http://xkcd.com/992/">xkcd's new proposal</a> better.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:32:30 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - I cringe at those basic math question posted on the web.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/I-cringe-at-those-basic-math-question-posted-on-the-web#c696c6975535f43c0819fa16500d886d7">Sven Groot</a>:</p><p>I stopped relying on mnemonics since I almost flunked a test for misremembering one.</p><p>Just curious, though: why should roots be computed after division?</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:04:43 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Ink</dc:creator>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - C++ Bool Help?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>if (CoinResult = true)</p><p>is not the same as</p><p>if (CoinResult == true)</p><p>Classic pitfall;&nbsp;some compilers warn you about this kind of things.</p><p>Two ways to avoid this altogether:</p><p>1) Reverse all your comparisons, so that the constant appears first. For instance,</p><p>if (true = CoinResult)</p><p>would produce a compile time error.</p><p>2) At least for Boolean expressions, use implied conversion to bool:</p><p>if (CoinResult)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>HTH</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:52:57 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Dream up Microsoft </title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Dream-up-Microsoft#c8d1218f9e4dd4fc39cfca15f00cf4a43">Bas</a>: in some areas, reality is already surpassing that vision: MSR recently demoed live English to Chinese translation (with voice matching, sort of), which is more advanced than what the two little girls are doing at the beginning. And the&nbsp;amazing sensors that are cropping up (Kinect,&nbsp;&nbsp;Leap motion) mean remotes are on their way out, stylish or otherwise.</p><p>Of course there's a lot of technology in there that we may never see (apparently they don't need cables or batteries, for instance, signs appear in thin air and screens are so cheap you can slap one on a coffee mug), but we are getting there.</p><p>On a side note: there's a lot of &quot;Metro done right&quot; in the video, which seems to validate where Microsoft is heading. On the other hand, it proves that Metro looks just gorgeous on glass (hint hint).</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:42:38 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Does anyone know how this can be done on Windows?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick thought: unless you force your users to use headphones, the background sound&nbsp;will be picked up by the microphone. Mixing it again with the same sound (with some delay) will be tricky at best.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 01:01:25 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - What OS is not business critical ready?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/What-OS-is-not-business-critical-ready/b5e66b14cdff41159633a15801520e2a">2 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/gcorcoran">gcorcoran</a> wrote</p><p>For all the businesses using and developing java based applications, it just seems shocking to block it without any warning. Just think about how much time it would take to drop everything and develop in a different language in a business world full of already tight schedules... it's just insane.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Hardly without warning: the way I read it, Apple just reverted a previous decision to re-enable Java after finding out that&nbsp;Oracle's patch was only partially effective.</p><p>I'm not an apologist of Apple's tactics, but this time they are kind of justified by Oracle's incompetence.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:20:09 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Microsoft still in denial phase over W8.. possible &quot;relaunch&quot; in February</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Microsoft-still-in-denial-phase-over-W8-possible-relaunch-in-February/c8b15a1987e4471eb312a15800de2721">3 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/davewill">davewill</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Microsoft-still-in-denial-phase-over-W8-possible-relaunch-in-February#c5f9bec7ce9ca42dc929ea1580066c387">elmer</a>: Not &quot;all?&quot;. When finding a USB/Serial adapter it is important to see what chipset it uses and if it handles both hardware and software handshaking.&nbsp; Once you find one that meets those criteria then you have found a rock solid adapter.&nbsp; USBG-232 has been rock solid for years.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.usbgear.com/usbg-232.html">http://www.usbgear.com/usbg-232.html</a></p><p>The support and development folks have been at odds for several years now over this.&nbsp; Support still encourages users to install the converter instead of using USB/(Activesync/WMDM) because it is an instant usable connection and simplifies user life.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Even with perfectly good USB/Serial adapters, there's still the chance that the thing may fail spectacularly. I've seen some devices (no names here, to protect the guilty) that draw small amounts of current off the control signals; no big deal with a real serial port, but enough to make the chip in the adapter go bananas. For extra fun, make sure that the device doesn't draw current continuously and that the peak is borderline.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:05:42 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - What is OSV.Next?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/What-is-OSVNext#ca0715be7e5e446a2b0aba15800a387bb">Ian2</a>: Amazing. As a regular CAD user, I cannot wait to see what this can do.</p><p>This said, I'm kind of worried about how well this would work for the general public, looks like there's going to be a &quot;palm rejection&quot; problem on steroids here. Either users get used to move their hands off the sensing area, or the UI needs to be very picky (or very smart) about intentional and valid gestures. Either way I expect it will need some training.</p><p>With a little luck, the coolness of &quot;casting spells&quot; to your PC will be&nbsp;a big enough incentive.</p><p>As for the audio commands and feedback, the technology never worked too well for PCs;&nbsp;one thing is to&nbsp;bark commands to an xbox in your living room, another is to have to say what you are doing in&nbsp;public. I doubt that's ever going to change, until&nbsp;they nail subvocalization.</p><p>Once that happens, we'll have proven&nbsp;Clarke's third law again: &quot;<em>any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic</em>&quot;.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:21:25 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Office Subscriptions (price!)</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Office-Subscriptions-price#c9febd81a12984b84aa34a15600e40ccb">wkempf</a>: The problem is the subscription concept can be hard to sell someplace. Buying a physical license I get to spend a well-known amount of money if and when my budget allows, something I don't get to do with a subscription. Peace of mind is priceless.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:37:34 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Ink</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Office-Subscriptions-price/69a95b52ea254a18a48aa15600babb32">1 hour&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/ManipUni">ManipUni</a> wrote</p><p>* snip *</p><p>I'd prefer to pay £89 for the physical boxed copy of Office 2010. I only buy Office once every eight years anyway, plus there is no assurance that Office 365 even gives you the newer versions of Office when they come out in the future (i.e. there might be an &quot;upgrade fee&quot;).&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Looking at the Microsoft Store, it says &quot;Ongoing access to updates&quot;, which seems to suggest that you just keep getting the latest and greatest.</p><p>The pricing looks rather different when you compare current versions: the cheapest I can find on the MS Store is Office Home and Student 2013, which installs on just 1 PC, lacks quite a few features and goes for GBP 109.99. Hmm...</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:36:05 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Visual Studio Achievements; they&#39;re not Xbox live right?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Achievements-theyre-not-Xbox-live-right/72e8f8b7afc44c22a755a1510011453b">15 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/Dan276">Dan276</a> wrote</p><p>Also what are the penalties if you're caught cheating on Visual Studio Achievements?</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>You get to program in COBOL.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:19:51 GMT</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Ink</dc:creator>
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