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blowdart wrote:

evildictaitor wrote:

blowdart wrote:

jsampsonPC wrote:
Curiosity, a matter-less activity of thought
thought is matter less? but you cannot have thought without someone to "host" it.
Uhuh. Thought is virtual in the same way that software is virtual. Although software (thought) cannot exist (in a detectable way) without hardware (the brain).
Ah but, even at a low low level we're talking atoms, electrons and lower, without which it cannot exist at all
I was under the impression that electrons exist now in clouds of probability...not as absolute particles with fixed locations in space at a given time.

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Now I know why I never majored in philosophy. Perplexed

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Uh...here's what Google says:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+innovation

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donttazemebro wrote:
There is no justification for breaking the law. It's very clear in the EULA that if you modify or reverse engineer Windows system files you are breaking it's terms. Doing so also a very big security risk and can cause system instability. Even if you are really careful since you are modifying a system file, a Microsoft update which is not expecting this may cause your system to break in the future. Too many times have I had to fix people messes trying to "modify" or "pimp" Windows out. It's illegal, unsupported and you are risking a broken system by trying it. Just don't do it.
Gosh. The next thing you'll tell us is that Linux "innovation" never existed, and that all Linux users should be deported to Finland! Perplexed

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blowdart wrote:

Cornelius Ellsonpeter wrote:
I'm just curious what everybody's language/technology experience is, and how long it took you to get to that point. Often times I'll read so many posts on this board, and it seems like there are a few people who seem to know "everything" but I know that can't be true. Some days I find that interesting, other days, it's tiring because I wonder how many people just sit and Google things and then claim to "know" the answer.

It's not the language that's the problem, it's the size of the framework behind it. C#? I'm comfortable with most of it (anonymous delegate still make me cringe, and I never manage to get predicates right without looking it up again), but the framework? Lord. Right now I'm doing a bunch of cardspace stuff, and I can get just about enough advanced WCF to make it work, but some of it is still guesswork (admittedly due to poor documentation)
I agree...some of these frameworks are so huge. And then, by the time you have a general enough handle on it, another one rolls out. These things are being produced by teams of people, and so it is going to be overwhelming for one person to learn (and least I'm finding it that way). Incomplete documentation doesn't help, either. I'm fairly comfortable now with C# also, and I know it wouldn't take much to get a decent handle on VB.NET (because I used other BASICs in the past, and know a fair amount about object orientated programming, etc.). I'm to the point where I've built up a decent rack full of books, but good grief I'm not going to spend years reading through every page of them. Some of them are there for reference.

I guess it's just irritating to come on here some days and see a W3bbo post where he claims to have an answer, but it's half wrong. Then I'll see someone else join in, and their info is mixed up too. I guess most forums are like that...but it's just frustrating some days more than others. I know, I know...why do I even come here then? Perplexed

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z2bass wrote:
How about you learn both? They are both VERY similar. They really don't have many differences. Most people split hairs over small features... but they esentually do the same stuff and both merge to IL. If you want a "feature-rich" language, I suggest you start learning IL
Funny...I picked up a VB.NET book the other day. Both languages do share a lot in common. But if I go to the trouble of learning the IL, I'd take it a step further and build my own language! Wink

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PaoloM wrote:

DarthVista wrote:
.

And just like Beer28, we have the post deletes...

Charming (not)
Mr. Sampson has done this, too, fwiw. Nobody yells at him about that. Maybe Darth regretted his post(s)? Very UN-beer like, IMHO.

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figuerres wrote:

rjdohnert wrote:


Lets hold a contest.  People submit a video giving the reason they would want to work on Channel 9 and what Channel 9 means to them and what they would do to help improve channel 9.  Jeff and team view the videos and choose the best ones and conduct video interviews of the ones they pick.  Then we (the C9 community) grade these videos on who we think the next top C9'er will be and Jeff and team make their decision.  It cuts down on applications and HR hunting.  To qualify applicants must have been a Channel 9 member and participator for at least a year.  Make it like a web reality show.

in a perfect world that would be fun...

but I bet that Legal and HR would have a huge fit over that idea...

This is an excellent idea...but the problem is that the outcome really hinges on who is in charge of the hiring, and I don't think community input would be much of a factor, unfortunately. In fact, if Scoble was still involved, and was in charge of hiring, the community input would be completely irrelevant.

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nightski wrote:
Learn both.  Learning the language isn't the time consuming part anymore, its the framework.
And how long should I expect that to take? Assuming I can only work on this "after hours". I already know a decent amount of C++.

Java: blech.

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This is all for your own good.

After all the state knows what is best for you.

Besides, it's all for your safety.

Why don't you want to be safe?

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P.S. Why are all the job boards I look at full of contract jobs (Dice, etc.)? Where's the permanent work doing this?

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odujosh wrote:
My general recommendation is something that shows job competences. If your an ASP.NET developer wanna be. Make your own controls, show how to use existing controls on your blog, make your own blog.
Interesting...I just found this site: http://www.asp.net/community/control-gallery/

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odujosh wrote:
Make a porfolio, start a blog, show passion. Handouts otherwise are pretty sparse.
Good points. Smiley

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English: I would like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Dutch: Ik zou van een pindakaas en geleisandwich houden.
Back to English: I would love a peanut cheese and geleisandwich.


English: I would like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
German: Ich möchte ein Erdnussbutter- und Geleesandwich.
English: I would like peanut butter and jelly-and-yielded.

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Rossj wrote:

Cornelius Ellsonpeter wrote:
How big should this "pet project" be? Are we talking like a one month project, a six month project, or something else? How complex should it be?


That depends on how much you want to learn

Assuming you are going to be doing it evenings and the odd weekend, I wouldn't try and re-write Word - but just pick something you are interested in doing/learning and you'll know when you are comfortable enough with the language (and I assume the OOP) to claim knowledge of it. A forum or something, or an app for managing passwords securely or whatever.
But timewise, how big of a project should I aim for? Assuming I work on it, nights and weekends.

Rossj wrote:
Reading as book and claiming you know the language is disingenious and will come back to bite you.
I agree...and HR seems to have a different definition of things compared to the actual tech people a person might work with day to day.

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Rossj wrote:

Cornelius Ellsonpeter wrote:
Yeah, but at what point can you put another language on your resume? Maybe like C#...but I haven't used it "on the job" yet...only by working with examples out of textbooks.
Not yet then.

Pick a pet project, complete it, and then put the language on your resume.
How big should this "pet project" be? Are we talking like a one month project, a six month project, or something else? How complex should it be?

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jsampsonPC wrote:
Sweet, the Apple RDM didn't bother me until I started wanting to use it on multiple machines and listening devices. Turns out that stuff is more frustrating than I originally thought
What's even more fun is reinstalling your OS, but accidentally forgetting to "backup" your licenses or whatever. It's a fun way to wipe out your whole music collection and read error messages about how supposedly your music was "downloaded to a different machine" and you now can't listen to any of it...even though the files are sitting on your hard drive.

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