3 hours ago, evildictait​or wrote

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Because the default answer to "does it do ...?" or "has it got feature ...?" is "no".

That's not "no - it'll never be there, that's a stupid idea, stop asking". It's more a "holy crap, man, have you any idea how few people are working on this, and how hard they're working to get it to even ship on time?"

Maybe one day XBox One or a future Xbox will run WinRTs apps. But its not going to at launch, and people buy Xboxes for games and media. And getting the Xbox to have a good experience with most WinRT apps would be hard, and frankly not all that great for customers - at least, compared with having say some exclusive titles, faster performance, or $30 off the asking price.

Core features are going to come first. Other features are secondary.

Or its already in there, called WinXRT internally at MS, and will have its own store with a more limited invite only selection of apps that support XBox's UI and input methods.

24 minutes ago, evildictait​or wrote

@fanbaby: 

I think perhaps we're talking cross-purposes. Microsoft's (and Google's, and Facebook's) servers are built out of commodity components. They aren't boxes like you'd buy in a store and put under your desk - that's for sure, but they aren't built by Google or Microsoft either. For one, neither Microsoft nor Google has the machinery, or the inclination to build custom RAM chips, processors, hard disks, racks etc etc etc. These are all off-the-shelf components.

Microsoft's and Google's datafarms compete primarily on software and the configuration of the components, not on the components themselves, which are all bog-standard off-the-shelf components.

 

I'm pretty sure you're the only one in this thread that thought he meant they forge their own chips. 

32 seconds ago, spivonious wrote

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It's very frightening that I live in a world where people can get so livid over a machine made to waste time.

The host of the Angry Joe Show gets angry. Who woulda thunk it?

There's a MORE DEVELOPER CENTERS (!) link on the first page. ASP.Net is buried in there.

Also, I suppose Windows Azure could imply ASP.Net to some extent.

But yeah, it seems like an odd omission from the front page.

PS: Silverlight and Windows Desktop Apps have dev centers too (though WPF is buried deeply enough that I can't find it under the later or .Net). So I guess they aren't dead after all

8 minutes ago, cheong wrote

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Yup. When I left my last company, we still have clients who using DOS based stock trading system and dutifully pay our support fee even when they've not contacted us for support for a long time.

Who knows how long will they keep living as long as they can serve a purpose.

We have a DOS app we still use too on XP. We run it in XP Mode on the few Win7 64-bit machines we now have. Unfortunately Windows 8 dropped XP Mode so we'd have to cobble something together with Client Hyper-V and whatever non-OEM XP licenses we have around (or does the Win8 Pro license let you install a 2nd 32-bit copy in a VM?).

1 day ago, kettch wrote

It also looks like they've relaxed on their "16:9 all the things" stance. That should make it somewhat easier to hang on to and read.

Does that mean it won't support snapped apps on such devices?

http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/354457/windows-8-developers-wonder-wheres-ad-revenue

4 hours ago, ScanIAm wrote

If you look at the visual layout of a modern CPU, you'll see literal centimeters between the processor and the cache, so you'll never get faster than that.

You could always go vertical.

And there's no breakdown of RT vs 8 tablets, so it's hard to tell whether wanting a "real" OS is a factor. 

And you conveniently forget that most complaints about 8 are about Metro on non-touch desktop PCs. It still makes for a fine (but not perfect) tablet UI.

34 minutes ago, DylanThe​Soldier wrote

@kettch: ADSP-BF606 is the board I'm looking into.

I'm wondering what makes the board compatible with the .net micro framework? Do they have the CLR already embedded? Is it done when I'm programming the code into the board. It's stated the blackfin architecture is already supported. So do i have to do anything other than connect The board and program it with the default .net micro framework installation on visual studio 2012?

I don't know any more than I've just read in the Interwebs, but it looks to me like you'd be on your own writing drivers for your particular board (note. The BF606 is a CPU, not a board). And I imagine you'd have to then write your port of NetMF to flash memory on said board. I'd look for a board/CPU with better out of the box support

.http://www.netmf.com/netmf-porting-kit-41-data-sheet.aspx

3 minutes ago, cbae wrote

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Discreet? Social media apps are anything but discreet.

LOL. I guess I meant "discrete"

1 hour ago, cbae wrote

As far as I know, the WP user base is almost non-existent in Korea, yet they put out a WP client. OTOH, Facebook, which has a reach that expands into areas of greater WP penetration, just ignores the platform altogether.

I thought WP had all that snazzy social media hubbiness that obviated the need for discreet social media apps.

7 hours ago, evildictait​or wrote

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Lol. They did do that. In Windows8 you do boot to a desktop where all of your desktop icons are live tiles.

Well, they almost did that. If only they made the start screen sit behind desktop and metro apps, and activated it with that button in the lower right of the task bar.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/dd456853(v=vs.100).aspx

WCF Data Services:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc668792.aspx

PS: At least "close" appears to be persistent

1 hour ago, figuerres wrote

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if this is true or close to true: "Thurrott added even more to mull over. He said "Durango" is likely to be expensive -- $500 for the console itself and $300 for the annual Xbox Live subscription."

then I bet many folks will not buy it.

right now a year of gold / xbl is about 60 USD depending on how and where you buy it.

if they try to raise the price of the xbl sub they better have some really killer reason for getting folks to buy that... if the next xbox requires me to pay $300 and buy the console then I will not buy it.

I bet that would be the reaction of *MOST* gamers / xbox owners.

I hope that number was supposed to be more like 30.00  not 300.00 

I took the $300 subscription-based model to mean the console subsidized by a subscription contract like a cell phone.

27 minutes ago, Blue Ink wrote

@figuerres: that's unfortunately the way things are. And we are just digging ourselves in a deeper hole by using (and abusing) old protocols in all sort of devices.

Mitigation is all we can hope for at the moment; for instance, I wonder if it wouldn't be a good thing to allow SMTP servers to reject messages unless they originate directly from one of the IP addresses of the sender's domain (something that is specifically forbidden in the current RFC). That alone would make the whole header spoofing business irrelevant and it would improve the effectiveness of blacklisting.

 

It's called SenderID

http://build.windowsstore.com/keepthecash

Also that 2nd link doesn't say which versions of IE don't support the output tag, so maybe they haven't updated the note for IE10 yet.

I don't have IE10 installed so I can't double-check any of this.

http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=using:audio_filters