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Ray7 said:

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Whenever they first said it doesn't really matter. The fact is they said it: WindowsPhone7 is a phone aimed at consumers. Rather than pin your hopes on this changing in time to suit your project's schedule, your best bet would be to look for a solution that works now.

I agree

Dave K

Ray7 said:

DaveK said:

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I'm a bit late to all of this, but it sounds as if you didn't pick up on Microsoft's plans for this thing.

 

This is a consumer OS. This is what MS has said it is from day one.  If I were you I wouldn't get your hopes up that it will be anything else.

Day one for you may be 6 months to a year  ago. For me it was 2007. But after seeing the architecture session from MIX, I have to agree with the fact that this is not a platform for any serious field data collection apps that continuously enter data all day.

Dave K

ScanIAm said:

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It's geared towards the consumer, you are apparently expecting to develop commercial, business grade applications for it.

 

You've been given multiple alternate solutions, and yet you still seem bent out of shape that a cheesy consumer toy with no multitasking can't do what you want.

 

From the depths of the bowels of my heart, I offer my deepest sympathy.

 

Can you get over it, now?

You’re right about this not being a heavy duty business app platform. After watching the architecture webcast from MIX it’s apparent  there’s no way this architecture is for the type of enterprise app where the device is being used hard to enter data. The good news is I don’t have to re-write a really complex app because it won’t be possible.

Dave K

ScanIAm said:

DaveK said:

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Aw...I could never stay angry with you.

XOXO

Dave K

David7738 said:

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For a Christmas release the retailers have to place their orders in the next 90 days.  Microsoft not being in the hardware game has to have the OS finished or very close for the phone manufacturers to make up their mind to adopt the OS then do their inevitable tinkerinmg i.e. not all LG phones (identical model) are the same if they come from different carriers there are always added and deleted functions unless mandated on a take it all or leave it license.  Then it's tooling up time, marketing campagns to coordinate.

 

DaveK, with you having an enterprise mission critical environment you are severly limited in the device and carrier you have to select and some of this might be geographically dependant as well.  You well understand the limitations you are involved with.. Surpirsed that blackberry never entered your discussion or anddroid platforms.

 

You may have to create a new frontend for each device that can work with the backend (server) or go totally custom i.e. the UPS (the courier) pad route.

 

Personal prejudice or preference has no place in the business.

Thanks for the input. It's good to get a little insight into the logistics with the phone manufaturers. I have not given  the blackberry or android platforms a good look.

As far as creating a new front end for multiple devices, I waited until MIX to try to determine the best future for developing not just the rugged type of work we do with devices now, but the best opportunities for both commercial and consumer apps we plan in the future. I have been mapping out the best way for us to maximize code reuse.I'd like to see if we can use MonoTouch to help us port some code written for .NET devices to Apple products. I think Apple is showing a lot of business promise for uses that do not require a real hardened device.

I do realize that we may be forced to look at more custom hardware for more challenging physical environments, if things don't workout.

And yes, the bickering has gotten a little childish, but "He started it, Mommy". (I'm not taking a shot at you as Mommy, just trying to stay in character).

My appologies if I have offended anyone.

Dave K

blowdart said:

DaveK said:

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*snort* Damnit, I choked on my coffee

Glad you appreciated it.

Dave K

PaoloM said:

DaveK said:

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But why? I mean, this is clearly someone who -unlike you - had the balls and skills to "write his own", so it certainly doesn't stand up to your high government approved standards...

 

See, there are whiners and there are doers. Guess which way is DaveK and which way is Dan Ardelean...

 

Quit flirting with me.

Dave K

ScanIAm said:

DaveK said:

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Or what?  You'll incessantly whine some more?

Nice to hear from you again.

Dave K

sushovande said:

DaveK said:

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A proof of concept version of Sqlite has already been made for Windows Phone 7 Series, see here. (Link courtesy @longzheng)
http://sviluppomobile.blogspot.com/2010/03/sqlite-for-wp-7-series-proof-of-concept.html

Thanks for the great link. I really appreciate it and will follow it with interest.

Thanks again

Dave K

davewill said:

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We are waiting for Microsoft's plan as well.  WinPhone7 is definitely not a business fit for our customers yet we have not heard what the plan is for WinMobile.  To date we have treated the WinPhone7 as a fork and patiently wait to hear the news regarding the other prong.

In the Q&A after the first Windows phone session by Charlie Kindle, they talked about not providing new features for WindowsMobile just supporting what's there. So I guess the other branch of the fork will be something else. Some day.

Dave K