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Cybermagellan wrote:

I figure for all the complaining I do I might as well give myself a platform for it.

Since Microsoft really isn't talking about Windows Seven at all...but we're doing plenty of it...I figure maybe we can post what we want to see out of the next version of Windows. In the event someone listens then great, if not at least we gave our voice....

Worse comes to worse the C9 team deletes this thread.

My Hope:
1. Theme Management like Linux has...
2. "Expose" view like OSX has...
3. Sandbox/Virtualization (Think VMWare Fusion Unity Mode) for OSX and Linux apps.

*sticky? Maybe we can contain speculation here...

+1 on all of those!

The sheer fact that he had to look up where the registry APIs were located (advapi32.dll).  I would say he definitely is a fake, I knew this when I was in highschool working with Visual Basic 4.  Seriously are you kidding me, in fact Visual Studio came with a tool, the name escaping me at the moment that would let you browse commonly used API methods by library name and advapi32.dll was one of them, if he is a Microsoft employee he is a complete moron and should be terminated!

In fact I would even wonder if he knows who Dan Appleman even is, or if he even owns the book "A guide to Win32 API" every programmer that has ever messed with the Win32 API owns that book it is like a bible, and not even for VB programming but for Win32 programming in general...  Hell I was strictly against MFC when I was doing VC++ programming and this book was almost constantly open and I can't comprehend how a Windows developer would not know this by heart!

Man crap like this really irritates me, I hate stupid programmers but I hate fakers even worse!!

Read digg.com comments to make me feel like I am the smartest person in existence, or second none read youtube comments!

On a serious note I am a .NET Developer Consultant for a company called Avanade, its quit fun actually!

When corona turns old enough to get a job I would love to see how he tell's his boss he only uses Linux and his boss tell's him tough #### since no one uses Linux in the corporate world.  Why?  Well because it needs about another 4-5 years of maturing to become usable in that kind of environment and the only companies you will see doing this are companies that take risk, there is very little value in doing a conversion in the first place.

Have fun in your life, and stop harassing us on Channel9, I don't goto the Ubuntu forums and harass you Linux lovers?  Why are you so insecure about your choice?  We don't care if you like Linux and hate Windows, we really don't just live your life happy and be done with it!

corona_coder wrote:

Nice report by a Microsoft sponsored party to be testing outdated software such as Ubuntu 6.06.   The fact is Microsoft has not and cannot fix Windows.  i dont care how many people claim Windows is more secure.  What OS gets hacked 98% of the time?  Windows,  What OS will get malware more than likely?  Windows.  Microsofts days with Windows is done.  Microsofts server product and HPC offering, a joke.  Not even a funny one.

I used to drink diet pepsi, but I switched to diet coke because it taste different.  It's nearly the same thing, heck you can't really tell the difference unless you design coke or you work in the soft drink world.  But I am fine, I will stick with my diet pepsi, da heck with them naysayers, its the bomb!

Background is very Ubuntuish, no like, make it more red like C9 currently is, PLEASE!!

Wow not to sound bad but your inexpperience really shows with your post.  Tons of applications use progress bar, are you crazy?

They don't do automatic checking for thread invocation in winforms because it would drastically decrease performance, while WPF has implemented this a bit where it checks periodically if you are on the correct thread and throws an exception if you arent it does not do it for every single event call for the same reasons, see documentation for method called CheckAccess, VerifyAccess...

In addition they have greatly simplified invocation in WPF all you have to do is use the Dispatcher.BeginInvoke method...

Unit Testing are reusable tests, they are designed so you can rerun them if for example you do a bunch of refactoring.  If I still green light than chances are good I didnt break anything but there is no gaurantee obviously, they are better than before however...The type of unit testing you are talking about is not really useful in most situations due to the complexity of most applications, I cant think of many methods that I create on a daily basis that take only simple types as parameters for instance.

It makes sense to spread LINQ out like that to me personally, not sure what your main complaint about that is really focusing on with only a brief glance at the framework are you really sure its that bad or are you just complaining?

I do agree with a couple of your points, the multiple solutions in one IDE is a good one however I realize why they dont do it.  I have been on projects that have over 100 projects in their solution and it takes forever to load visual studio.  With the ability for multiple solutions I could just see that escalating out of control.

Things I want to see?

C# Background Compiling is #1 on my list personally Ctrl+Shift+B keys are used so often the letters are coming off, well until I started using Resharper which does this kinda sorta...

For god sake fix the crappy TFS Unit Testing window, there is no reason I want to see all 400 unit tests uncategorized, please I want a drop down to select the class I put them in not an entire list that takes forever to load in the first place and sometimes freezes up while loading!! its just horrible!! I hate it!!!

Also while I am at it, RIGHT CLICK UNIT TEST ABILITY.. HELLOOOO

Anyways now that I got that out of the way...

Some other smaller changes I want to see:

If I compile a solution and then run it, and then stop it and dont change anything at all, why in gods name does visual studio go through the projects again, just freaking run it again...

Can we please get taggable bookmarks?  Who the heck uses bookmarks in 2005?  No one!!  They are useless, unless you can tag them they are a waste of space!

Please give me the ability to disable auto event wiring when I double click a forms element, I do this by mistake more often than not.  If some people like it thats great, I hate it and so does everyone I work with.  I want to be able to disable it!

I could go on but im tired of typing...

wkempf wrote:



ElucidWeb wrote: It will throw a compiler error if you dont give the variable a value during declaration.  But the compiler may miss this depending on how you pass it into the method. In any case you should always declare your variables as null when using them, why wouldnt you? string s = null; if (String.IsNullOrEmpty(s))    Console.WriteLine("String is null or empty."); Console.ReadLine();

How do you "throw a compiler error"?

And AFAIK, there's no way the compiler can miss an error here, at least in C#.  Pass it normally, or as a ref, and it will result in a compilation error.  Pass it as an out, and it will result in a compiler error if the called function references the variable prior to assigning to it.  There are no scenarios where you can reference an undefined variable in C#.

And I'm not certain how any of this is relevant to the original post mistakenly thinking IsNullOrEmpty() would throw an exception?

Ok it will generate a compile time error?  Is that better wording for you?  Are we on slashdot?  oh were not..hmm

Aslo here is how you would get around the compiler not generating  an error at compile time:

 class Program
    {
        public static void Main()
        {
            Test test = new Test();
            if (String.IsNullOrEmpty(test.myString))
                Console.WriteLine("String is null or empty.");

            Console.ReadLine();
        }
    }

    class Test
    {
        public string myString;

        public void Run()
        {
            myString = "test";
        }
    }

How is what I posted not relevant to the initial poster, he was saying this little gem (String.IsNullOrEmpty) throws an exception and was wondering why it does that, well it doesnt if you use it correctly as I was demonstrating!!

BTW notice how I never actually use Run?  Well I do that to fool the compiler... lol

It will throw a compiler error if you dont give the variable a value during declaration.  But the compiler may miss this depending on how you pass it into the method.

In any case you should always declare your variables as null when using them, why wouldnt you?

string s = null;
if (String.IsNullOrEmpty(s))
   Console.WriteLine("String is null or empty.");

Console.ReadLine();

odujosh wrote:

I don't believe in the villanazation of Microsoft. Microsoft primary concern with DRM is creating a market that the music industry and the fans could see as fair. We can argue till the cow comes home about execution. I think the fact that there is an industry built up around both platforms (DRM and Apple) both sides can easily say they were successful and the market has benifited.

For the first time we have  all you can eat subscription formats that would not exist without IPODs and DRM. For that I think we should be thankful. Really it is just a break even game: Do you spend more than X on music per year? If so _fill in subscription service here_ makes sense. The something for nothing all you can eat uncontrolled model will never work. The big question this article raises thats the lynch pin of trust is how do we flexibly tell if consumer x has bought rights to listen to x.

But ITunes is the leader of the pack when it comes to DRM, talk about defective by design!  Fair Play is one of the most restrictive ones, especially compared to the Microsoft one...