So, Microsoft, I'm a fan but sometimes, just sometimes, it's like rooting for the Dolphins (which, as it happens, I do).

Evok said:

I can see why they'd be mad about this. It seems like this fool is trying to make the iphone out to be something really complicated and hard  to use, thus tarnishing the usability image for no reason other than trying to make a joke out of nothing.

Really? If it's that easy to kill iPhone sales, maybe it isn't that good after all.

Apple's real problem is that they have been able to portray themselves as the nice-and-friendly company, out there fighting the good fight for Joe Average. As they have actually got into the Joe Average market, they find that it's hard to keep up the shiny image. But, a few years ago, the stop-or-we-will-sue your-* letter by their lawyers to the girl that thought it was awesome to send them a design for an iPod cover (or something to that effect) was the first sign they found you cannot be the customer's friend and control everything that's going on outside your company.

In the early 2000's, I was turned off by Microsoft. After that, Apple's shenanigans was one of the bigger factors that made me re-examine and find that Microsoft is actually a decent company that knows how to navigate between the close and open side. Not perfectly but good enough.

To think I was this close to buying an Apple last november.....

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Sven Groot said:

In ASP.NET you could indeed use master pages for this. If you're using plain HTML you would have to repeat the common HTML on each page, or use frames (which is somewhat frowned upon these days, but can still be a valid approach in some circumstances).

I really want to try and use ASP.NET for it. The simplicity of it makes HTML or frames just as good an option (seeing my meager skill level about 100 times to finish as fast too) but I see this as a kind of Hello World project. Also, in time, I want to take it a bit further and I think that using plain HTML from the get-go will eventually bite me in the ar... behind.

So, masterpage it is

Working on a very simple website, I'm trying to figure out how to place a page within a page. On the side I have links to different html pages (photo albums). The idea is that that album appears in the middle of the page, comparable to, say, webmail, where the foldernames are to the left of the page and the folder clicked on appears to the left of that.

My biggest problem is that I can't search for a how-to because I don't know how you would call it (yes, it is that bad). Can anyone help me out, so I can take it from there?

To a certain degree I understand the mechanics. A company, in my opinion, can be a protective as they want to be. If they get too protective, I won't buy their stuff, which is, in turn, my right. Also, there is a difference between how they are and how they portray themselves, I understand that as well, it's marketing, I'm ok with it. To a point, that is. Apple takes it too far.

CreamFilling512 said:

Maddus Mattus said:

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Can't have too much action, man.  If you want a story go read a book.

As I said, I'll be doing both. But because the f-ers at Pocket Books decided the North American customers go first, delaying the delivery in Europe by 3 weeks, after initially saying it would be available May 8th (btw they waited until May 12th to say so), I decided to go see the movie first anyway. Of course, Paramount owns Pocket Books. Sigh. Books are my crack and my dealer is most evil.

So it goes.

rhm said:

figuerres said:

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I think we should save the 8 bit stories for our therapists or something

I bought my first PC in 1990 and soon after bought Borland Turbo C++ v1 - although I only used it as a C compiler.  It was a revelation - a nice multi-file text editor with a built in source debugger. It was a great place to learn your first C because the API surface wasn't much bigger than the classic libC - I feel sorry for anyone learning to program for the first time in a modern environment.

Borland started to lose out with their C/C++ products pretty early on in the Windows growth cycle. The last version I bought was Borland C++ v4 in about 1994. I wrote a few programs for Windows 3.1 using Borland's OWL (object-windows library), which was easier to get to grips with than MFC and more object oriented, but a bit bloaty on the memory front. Microsoft started licencing MFC to other compiler vendors which marginalised OWL. Then ofc they came out with Visual Studio and that's what got most programmers using Microsoft compilers instead of Borland or Watcom.

Sabot said:

There are plenty of stories of violent crime and even murder and illegal copies of copyrighted material.

When I was out in Thailand a number of years back the main story of the day was a police shoot out caught between two rival gangs trying to steal one of the gangs cache of pirated software and drugs. On the streets of Thailand you can get more for the right software than drugs.

When Windows 7 comes out watch to see who is the first crew to distribute a cracked version will make allot of money.

So what about the 'free' downloads on torrents, well there is allot of reasons but the one that scares me the most is about infaltration. A torrent can be just a trojan for a piece of software that turns your machine into a bot. This bot can practically do anything to your machine. Bot machines can be bought and sold for various criminal activities that make perfectly untraceable crimes such as using your machine to perform credit card fraud.

So don't be naive and don't think your uptodate anti-virus will always protect you. The best protection is not to download stuff in the first place but like thats going to happen.

But what about just downloading keys? Hmmm, they just can't give you a key, it always comes in a 'key-gen' program ... again another trojan.

Sabot, any illegal activity can cause violent crime. This is not inherent in the activity but in the illegality. This is not to say that copying copyrighted works should by legalized, it is to say that the BSA lose some credibility by making these claims. The chosen method of communication by the likes of the BSA, RIAA and MPAA is often eerily similiar to that of a common street thug.

Which is why that, although I agree with their basic goals, I'd prefer not to be associated with them. You know, the company you keep and all that.

Cyonix said:

The problem is that you have to verifiably prove there is a creator, which you can’t. Therefore your argument is bust. No amount of disproving evolution is going to change that fact.

ScanIAm said:

evildictaitor said:

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It is amazing how we can both "come to jesus" on the topic of ignoring reality and subsequently encouraging discourse in fantasy, and still end up with a different point of view.

I feel comfortable in my aceptance of the truth of creationism.  I know, in my heart of hearts, that what I have sacrificed in common sense, years of active pursuit of the truth, and open hostility to f*cking idiots has been in vain.  I only hope that your new-found understanding of my obvious sarcasm has led you, too, to a similar enlightenment.

Namaste, brother being, namaste.

er...I meant haleluja.

littleguru said:

Dr Herbie said:

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Oh boy... that remembers me of the model that we had before Galileo Galilei discovered that we are not in the center of everything. They had this weird (and huge) equations to predict how everything else moved around earth. Just to make sure earth is in center of the solar system and the universe.

Ion Todirel said:

jonathansampson said:

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OMG this thread is going nowhere, needs to be closed

And kill the fun?

BHpaddock said:

jonathansampson said:

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• Is it possible that highly organized complicated biological systems can be the result of an intelligence? Possibly a form of panspermia, seeded from another local in our Universe?

This question is meaningless.  Is it possible we're all in The Matrix?

Science works from evidence, and looks for natural explanations because if there is a natural explanation it is far more likely and more useful to understand than a supernatural explanation. 

The fact is that there is no need for any intelligence to have "designed" any of the life on earth, from the very first to everything alive today including ourselves.  We know that life can come from non-life, in similar enough conditions to the early years of the earth.  We know that life over time will inevitably evolve.  We know that it did evolve.  So where, exactly, did such an intelligence step in?  Why?

blowdart said:

jonathansampson said:

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phreaks said:

Erwin Blonk said:

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Invoking Enron? That was an accounting scandal. Sorry bub, I'm not an accountant.

S&L is out of context as well, bad (traditional) loans by Savings and Loans that weren't securitized.

I'm also not a "decision maker", I'm in research.

phreaks said:

RoyalSchrubber said:

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When you get your MBA and CFA and achieve 10 years experience working in financials, then you can start trolling me on any financial or economic topic you like.

Until then STFU because clearly not many people here have even a basic understanding of the fundamental principles of finance. 

Maddus Mattus said:

Sven Groot said:

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I was being a bit sarcastic with that remark

I know it wouldnt do us much good, but I am convinced we are over estimating our contribution in terms of CO2 emissions. I think it is due to our arrogance as a species. Only time will tell who is right.

Koogle said:

"I can run VS Express WebDev, MS SQL 2005, 2 virtual servers, IE with 5 tabs open etc with Aero."

WOW, I wonder if my pc with xp could handle all those tasks  .. and crikey you're really pushing the boundaries of IE there.. i thought IE's ugly UI was only developed to hold a few tabs..

See I also find Vista users fall into 4 groups

1: fanboys
2: noobs
3: the unfortunate who got it bundled with that last pc or laptop sale
4: and developers

I don't fall under any of those useless groups you put together mathew.. although you could say some of incompetence seen within so many areas of Vista is frightning tbh...  ok I do agree with jamies 5th one.. although i'd have to be crazy to still be running Vista...when a fully customized XP is sooo much better. Will wait to see when MS have an OS out that doesn't have huge gaping holes of suckyness associated with it.