To be fair, the 1 and ONLY problem I've ever ran into on some VM's is the GC, but... if the GC doesn't get in the way and cause a pause, its smooth sailing and VM managed memory is actually fun to use/abuse

http://www.managedruntime.org/

Interview: http://www.infoq.com/interviews/gil-tene-gc

There has been an interview with the VP of Technology and CTO at Azul (A pause-less JRE) online yesterday. which gives a great low-down of all things GC, and I find it very fascinating to the point I want to raise the awareness here as-well and look for community discussion and hopes that MS just eliminate their CLR pause times. Imagine a pause-less JavaScript VM for IE, and a pause-less GC for the CLR . In the end, sure the advances in the CLR's pause times has seen great improvements but the CLR is sadly crap compared to something like the technical wonder of what the Azul JRE and its completely pause-less GC has achieved.

Might I finally add that the linux kernel interface and example code + usage is open sourced and implementation available for MS CLR dev's to learn from and hopefully integrate into a future version of the CLR. To finally make it better than ever as a technical wonder and on the forefront of what is possible today for GC's.

Enjoy

stun said:

GoddersUK said:

*snip*

If they can do the following

(1) get rid of those annoying UI clutter for options

(2) make the default keyboard shortcuts to be like FireFox and Chrome (yes FF and Chrome's Keyboard Shortcuts have become a "standard" in my opinion)

(3) Some really useful AddOns like AdBlock and FireBug for Opera

 

Then, I would be a converter. I feel like this Opera 10.5 is the very first version of Opera that I actually enjoy using for the first time ever!

Previous versions sucked and was not the right browser for me.

Options... great Scott its absolutely AMAZING how much functionality Opera truly has, I use it only as a browser, BUT if you actually look into it, it's also an E-mail client, and RSS feed aggregator, and a full features IRC client, AND a web-server called Unite., all in under 10 MB.

So Opera sort of NEEDS that many options, to control all of its tightly integrated features.  Who doesn't like visual tabs, AND a cool looking zoom slider on the bottom right of the Opera UI

For the AddOns like AdBlock and FireBug you request, the AdBlock feature you are used to is not auto-updated by a 3rd party list, instead you right click on a page and select "Block Content" which will bring you into an ad-blocking click session, to block any element on the page to create your own custom blocking rules(which I love and use extensively).

The FireBug which you want is called "Dragonfly"(needs the normal Menu Bar enabled or some keyboard shortcut I can't remember to launch), its a thing very similar to firebug, which even allows remote debugging of a web page.

Also, the one advantage Opera has over Chrome is the "Flip" feature for tabs on your start bar, Chrome & Opera both have Jump-lists implemented but Chrome doesn't show your tabs like Opera can, but Opera, IE8 and Firefox x64 allow it.

Too bad, sure Chrome is quick, i had a temporary affair with chrome, but Opera is where my heart is

There are 2 different diagrams which you could be wanting:

1) A State Diagram = Tracks a programs persistent state as the program executes, in a stepwise manner

2) A Control flow graph = A hierarchical logical way to mind map how the program should function

For the GoF book, they mainly use control flow graphs, having the function encapsulate other functions to hand control into other defined objects.

For tools on how to create them, there are 2 I've been having fun with lately, Visio 2010 which is in a free Beta right now, and Visual Studio 2010 also has UML modeling capabilities.  You can currently create UML diagrams from existing code now, but you can't yet create skeleton templates of code from the UML diagrams you create(yet).

So those two programs would be my suggestions.

JoshRoss said:

I cannot think of any benefits to having multiple mains. It's not like a lot of work is done in it.  It's there mostly for execution control flow purposes.  The only place that I have seen something like multiple mains is in a computer virus. The basic idea behind those is to spawn another main(ok so, it's a proc, whatever) when something kills or suspends the other.

 

Since net4 arrived in my dev-workflow, I have stopped using threads anyways.  The Task Parallel Library works much better, by being more difficult to screw-up and more performant.

I'm sorry if it seemed like I specifically desired multiple "main()" functions, I was referring to what main actually does, as an execution entry point for the whole program to follow in its steed.

I want a way for one core to start one part of a program whilst another core can execute a different path, working towards a common goal using the memory address the OS gives the program.

lol and yes, the TPL would indeed be a much more sane way to go for the runtime to manage your thread pool's usage, I for one have only explored the  PPL for usage of C++0x features & Lambda's along with interfacing with Intel's TBB for cross platform STL style code.

Rick Molloy is THE MAN along with Erik, they're both really inspiring.

For both C/C++ and Java you do need some true CS knowledge to code elegantly designed structure and powerful tools, Java is OO, as in serious OO, and most devs don't know OO until you see an elite European's Java code, it is completely object oriented, pure objects doing stuff to other objects, without exception.

C# can let you see your machine, with lots of verbose pain, unlike how a true machine language doesn't allow you to choose which level or spectrum of abstraction you see, you code the machine, not the runtime.

C# and VB are both bad CS learning languages, they are for workforce productivity only, and for ones who already understand execution flow.

This is an alternate way in my head I've been wondering as a different approach to the "thread" way of software engineering.

stevo_ said:

section31 said:

*snip*

Not for me, as soon as I right click anywhere on the start icon the jump list drops down and the overlay works as expected.

Would you happen to have a single CPU box your running on??  Im thinking the  right-click on the start button is preempted before the jump-list is torn down to create the proper context menu, making a reversed event only in a preempted system. with more than 1 proc.

If you dont have 1 core, the shell GUI team definitely needs to run a trace to see what is going on. 

To reproduce:

1. Right click on any icon in the task-bar to bring up a jump-list context menu
2. Right click on the Start-Orb or as close to the bottom-left corner of the screen as possible
3. Observe that the Orb is still on-top, visually overlapping the regular context menu as if the Start button was never there

I have seen it on every Windows 7 Build I have used since beta2, Im not sure if this is an Aero Window Manager bug or not.

What do people think??

Easiest non-destructive bug I've found to date, and I wanted to tell other people because I'm starting to think this will never get fixed.

Added a merged screenshot of the jump-list click, and a later start-orb click:

PerfectPhase said:

http://channel9.msdn.com/pdc2008/TL10/     Jump to 13:55   

 

lol, but he didn't actually say whether or not it was an after the fact thing he noticed or was brought attention to.  Other than that he was just noting a few enterprise/industrial strength selling points about what Iron meant to him personally for the presentation.

I still believe that Iron is a way to prefix a dynamicly typed language on a strongly typed runtime.

Charles even asked during one interview on C9 called Jimmy Schementi: Inside IronRuby so here's my answer: 

The CLR is a staticly typed runtime, which is also known as being "strongly typed".  Ruby and Python are Dynamic languages which are primarily typeless.  SO for the dev's making their .NET implementation wanted another way to say or prefix the Languages names with a "Strong" metaphor.  What better to depict strength other than Iron??

So I believe that naming a dynamic language ported to a strongly typed .NET CLR is called Iron* specifically for that reason, thus the name IronPython and IronRuby were born.

Any thoughts ??

2) The other thing I've not understood is WHY today we are limited to a single main function!!!  To me, if code entry execution point and exit points could be refrenced or indexed like a fucntion table at the beginning of the file, the binary could/should be able to run different functions at the same time, instead of the one large main which must start at one point in code/binary and end at specified exit/exception points. This is an alternate way in my head I've been wondering could be a different approach to the "thread".

I've been refreshing my memory on the awesome Lang.NET subject videos and I saw some potential if Charles and Jason teamed up to interview a future victim on C9.  I say that because they had a good vibe in the Jason Olson: Composing Programming Languages, F# and OO video and both have really good angles on multiple different subjects.  Jason seems to be really current on modern development and is now more in the trenches, and Charles is the decorated C9 vet with really insightful questions and philosophy during the interview action.

I'm just putting the idea out there but I'd really enjoy a future event of Charles and Jason to team up against some new blood on C9 to see how things turn out, hopefully others may also want to see this too.

BTW hello C9 forum, this is my first forum post.