Channel 9 - Discussions by Ion Todirel http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 - Discussions by Ion Todirel http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Ion Todirel/Discussions Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Ion Todirel/Discussions en Mon, 20 May 2013 20:23:03 GMT Mon, 20 May 2013 20:23:03 GMT Rev9 0 0 0 Coffeehouse - Crazy Windows-8 Ads - WTF ?!? the last one was kind of cute Smiley

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, fanbaby wrote

@Sven Groot: meant POSIX, so they work on linuxes. I think it's mainly bash dependency.

is that really enough to write modern software?

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, felix9 wrote

using twitter https://twitter.com/ahejlsberg

gah, I'd love more posts from Anders about language design, even Carmack is more active on twitter

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, MasterPie wrote

*snip*

I think it's really HTML that holds JavaScript back. Are we still performing string manipulation on document.cookies to read an individual cookie?

That's DOM, it's the DOM and poor browser performance that holds JavaScript back

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, PopeDai wrote

Hmm, I wonder what happened to the other guy who used to be on here... "w3ebo" was it?

he changed his name Wink

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, Sven Groot wrote

For games it doesn't really matter how fast your CPU in your PC is, since 99% of all games coming out now are console ports so are designed to run on 7 year old hardware (Xbox360 and PS3). Hopefully once the PS4 and new Xbox come out there will be some new games that actually utilize modern PC hardware.

Except some select ones, like Crysis

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, eddwo wrote

What do you need a 128 GHz chip for?  Are you modelling turbulent flows in fluid dynamics, or do you just want prettier graphics in your games?  

I'm sure we all want to approach holodeck style realism one day, but for most tasks the current systems are probably more than powerful enough.

People adapt a lot more slowly than computers. We still get people asking us for 'minimum system requirements', or what PC should they buy to run our software, when in truth for all but the most demanding applications any computer under 5 years old will do fine.  

I'm still using a Core 2 Duo 6300 from 2006 as my development machine, just with rather a bit more RAM now than what it started with.

 

What we really need is a way to actually make full use the capabilities of the systems we have without all the 'bloating' that has gone on. We have mostly just adapted to faster computers by creating more inefficient software, which leaves us roughly in the same position we were a decade ago in terms of responsiveness.

No it isn't, and it might never be, not in our life times anyway. It depends how much of the world you want to simulate.

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, PopeDai wrote

*snip*

I find IO to be the biggest bottleneck right now. There's no point being able to crunch through 10GB of data on your CPU in under 500ms if it still takes 30 seconds to read it from disk.

I also want to know why 3D games from 12 years ago have more responsive hardware accelerated UIs than a WinForms WebBrowser control embedded within a WinForms UserControl embedded within a WPF control, contained within a WinForms form (this is some of the internal software we use). The window takes 3 seconds to handle a resize event.

software rendering and abstractions on top of abstractions on top of abstractions?

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I still hate Wi-Fi very very much, too much interference in the area I live in, and the connection is too slow; I use a wired connection

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, blowdart wrote

*snip*

And give you a laptop with SLAT enabled Tongue Out

And enough income to afford 1000 WP licenses every month Smiley

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, androidi wrote

Example:

var list = new List<KeyValuePair<string, decimal>>();
myClass.GenericMethod<typeof(list)>(list);

I'm pretty sure C++11 had something like this, why doesn't C# have it?

it's called decltype, and it's awesome, come back to the right side Wink

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, MasterPie wrote

@Ion Todirel: It's impossible to know who copied who. You could have arranged your monitors that way after I posted that picture on FB several weeks ago. Big Smile

if you send a postcard, they'll send you w3bb0 back Smiley

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, dakedk2 wrote

maybe they're at a point where the DirectX API is mature enough to feed the developers for the upccoming several years, just like C language

There's actually a new C standard called C11, check it out. C is far from being done, for the most versatile language on the planet Wink

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, fanbaby wrote

It's similar to what happened to Silverlight about 3 years ago when IE9 started to support SVG and canvas.

It looks like WebGL will be supported in IE11 and it does means something to DirectX.

you are not thinking low enough, time to go back to C and assembly

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