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  • Ebola spreads to USA

    "Nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient with explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting, said Deborah Burger of National Nurses United."

    "...the Ebola patient's lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital's pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system. The nurses also alleged that hazardous waste was allowed to pile up to the ceiling."

    -- This is a complete failure of our government and the CDC. This second nurse was on a Frontier airline flight from Cleveland on the 13th, she went to the hospital with Ebola symptoms the next morning.

    "CDC also says woman who went to Ohio should not have been travelling after having contact with Ebola patient." 


    "Because of the proximity in time between the evening flight and first report of illness the following morning, CDC is reaching out to passengers who flew on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth Oct. 13," the CDC said in a statement. The flight landed Monday at 8:16 p.m. CT. - she boarded the plane with a temperature of 99.5 F... was she REALLY told not to fly or is that BS cover-up after the fact?

  • Ebola spreads to USA

    I hope Ebola is not loose in Dallas.

    The nurses alleged that:

    — Duncan was kept in a non-isolated area of the emergency department for several hours, potentially exposing up to seven other patients to Ebola;

    — Patients who may have been exposed to Duncan were kept in isolation only for a day before being moved to areas where there were other patients;

    — Nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital;

    — Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff;

    — In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose.

    "There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system," Burger said.

    Even today, Burger said, some hospital staff at the Dallas hospital do not have proper equipment to handle the outbreak.

    "Hospital managers have assured nurses that proper equipment has been ordered but it has not arrived yet," she said.

    The nurses' statement said they had to "interact with Mr. Duncan with whatever protective equipment was available," even as he produced "a lot of contagious fluids." Duncan's medical records, which his family shared with The Associated Press, underscore some of those concerns.

    Almost 12 hours after he arrived in the emergency room by ambulance, his hospital chart says Duncan "continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting." He was feverish and in pain.

    When Ebola was suspected but unconfirmed, a doctor wrote "using the disposable shoe covers should also be considered." At that point, by all protocols, those shoe covers should have been mandatory to prevent anyone from tracking contagious body fluids around the hospital.

    A few days later, however, entries in the hospital charts suggest that protection was improving.

  • Ebola spreads to USA

    Second Texas health-care worker tests positive for Ebola

    "Right now, we have two confirmed cases at this time," Thompson said. "I don't know if there will be additional cases but not let's be surprised."

    Since roughly 12% of those with Ebola never have a fever, that's not enough of a litmus test to trust. I should have invested in Tyvek suits...

  • Ebola spreads to USA

    This is the Surgeon/Welder fashion recommended by the CDC. Note that the protective shoe booties and paper pants are not indicated -- they're optional... 

    This is the required garb for workers who directly contact Ebola patients. Compare to the guys who simply spray down apartments and door handles below. It seems arrogantly stupid to require less protection by protocol of those who have to expose themselves to body fluids - health care workers - than for those who are there to sterilize possibly contagious surfaces only.


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  • Ebola spreads to USA

    @GoddersUK:  One day we will be asked to 'voluntarily' allow electronic implants under our skin for homeland security. 

    @Proton2: You made me laugh. Thanks.

    Arrogance in this instance is contemptible. I guess Dr. Snyderman can fend off Ebola with the sheer force of her ego consciousness - like any great scientific mind is trained to do. The public should be able to sue her for that breach of public trust as a licensed medical professional - she should have her license revoked for a year.

  • Ebola spreads to USA

    Ebola remains on surfaces for hours, and if the body fluid it is in stays at room temperature (and out of sunlight) it can live for days or weeks...

    That's not direct contact, Mr. Peterson.

    Coming within 3 feet is not "direct contact" either... though it's being defined as such.

    CDC says it "would not be surprised" to find more Ebola cases among Dallas hospital staff.

    The CDC is responsible for all Ebola infections in the USA, from the gross negligence of their ridiculous protocol "requirements" for those treating infected patients.

    Basically, a spacesuit is the REAL requirement, whereas the CDC guidelines of dressing up like a cross between a surgeon and a welder is NOT.

  • Ebola spreads to USA

    Centers for Disease Control (CDC) doesn't seem to promote safe requirements for treating Ebola.

    "What are the health care workers required to wear when they treat the Ebola patient?

    The CDC guidelines for U.S. health care workers specify that they should wear a surgical gown, gloves, eye protection and a face mask when caring for patients with Ebola. They also say that in "certain conditions, (e.g., copious amounts of blood, other body fluids, vomit, or feces present in the environment)," health care workers should wear two pairs of gloves, disposable shoe covers and leg coverings."

    Every Ebola worker I see has full head covering, but that's not 'required'?

    @Bass I would also want an air tank/ spacesuit at minimum...

    You know, if I didn't have shoe coverings and a splatter of body fluids dropped onto them, how would I know I'd breached protocol? It seems damned obvious that protocol must absolutely put workers into spacesuits, not paper pants (CDC optional) and operating room shoe booties (CDC optional)... Sounds pretty damned stupid as hell...

  • Ebola spreads to USA

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    @Bass: A nurse with appropriate equipment and 'following guidelines' is not the same as a nurse with specialist training -- the British volunteer who contracted Ebola in Africa and was brought home to the UK was treated without infecting anyone because the hospital that took him specialised in infectious diseases and all staff were specifically trained.

    The infected nurse in Madrid admitted that she touched her face after handling infected material. The Texas nurse may well have done something similar.  Relative to other infections, Ebola does not spread 'easily' because it is not airborne.

    So far, Ebola has affected one healthcare worker who was working closely with an infected patient -- that's not the same as a disease spreading within the public.

    'Man with Ebola-like symptoms'?  Could be anything and is unlikely to be Ebola.  Guy in Texas?  Not Ebola.

    The press likes a scare-story, this is not a scare story yet; when someone gets infected who has not been in an affected part of Africa or has not worked closely with infected patients, then it's time to start to be concerned.

    12% of Ebola cases show no signs of fever. 

    Therefore, airport screenings will be 88-90% efficient since fever is the measure.

    Therefore, we have not been told the truth regarding Ebola. We've been told that a fever is required for one to be contagious, and that is not the truth. We've been told that Scientific Western Society is not superstitious and can handle such an epidemic, and if that same Society is resting on untruths, then they are essentially superstitious about their faith in that Society.

    And they don't know how the nurse got Ebola in Dallas. I just heard radio interview of the Hospital chief, who said there was NO BREACH OF PROTOCOL. Now I don't %100 believe that, but I don't disbelieve it either. It will be essential to know what happened to restore faith in our Sophisticated Modern Scientific Western Society's ability to 'handle' the Ebola epidemic.


    "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say there was a breach in protocol, but haven't elaborated on what it means. Instead, it said the protocols laid out for American hospitals work."

     Three feet = direct contact. Sneezing, coughing aerosolizes... politician/doctor campaigning.

    National Institutes of Health is taking credit for no vaccine, because they could have if paid enough?  "a vaccine likely would have already been discovered were it not for budget cuts."

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    As of today, Friday, Oct. 10. 2014.  Keep it up, democracy champions!

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    I thought you may have been talking about a Kinect app...