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		<description><![CDATA[<p><blockquote><div class="quoteUser">littleguru said:</div><div class="quoteText">
<blockquote>
<div class="quoteUser">ManipUni said:</div>
<div class="quoteText">*snip*</div>
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Yeah. There is still stuff missing that I would love to see:<br>
- An easy way to extend IE with own plug-ins (big bummer - i hope we get more into this direction with IE9)<br>
- &quot;Show HTML source of selected&quot; that includes how JavaScript modified the source.<br>
- Spellchecker<br>
- Including a proper download manager (that doesn't use a temporary directory during download and allows to pause and resume downloads)<br>
<br>
Other than that it looks quite cool. No crashes (other than the one that i wrote earlier) with it.</div></blockquote>to view source of a specific area of the page, including changes from javascript, you can use the dev tools.<br>
<br>
press F12 to open the tools.&nbsp; turn on 'select element by click' (in the Find menu or the arrow cursor icon) and then click the area you're interested in.&nbsp; that selects the portion of the tree for that element and if you want to see it in HTML view, click 'view
 element source with style' button (or use view-&gt;source-&gt;DOM (Node) or Element Source with Style).</p>]]></description>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - IE 8 Beta 2!!</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><blockquote><div class="quoteUser">brian.shapiro said:</div><div class="quoteText">
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<div class="quoteUser">stevo_ said:</div>
<div class="quoteText">*snip*</div>
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Is there some proper feedback forum for IE8 beta?</div></blockquote>there are instructions in this blog post to join the beta program and file bugs:
<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/07/30/wanted-ie8-beta-testers.aspx">
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><blockquote><div class="quoteUser">Bas said:</div><div class="quoteText">
<blockquote>
<div class="quoteUser">JohnHrv MSFT said:</div>
<div class="quoteText">*snip*</div>
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<br>
<br>
I don't get the blue icon, but the accelerators do appear (and work) in the context menu. Is there a difference between the ones in there and the ones that appear after clicking the blue icon?<br>
<br>
Edit: huh, on other C9 pages I <em>do</em> get the blue icon.<br>
<br>
Still can't get any visual search results for Amazon...</div></blockquote>
<p>yeah, it makes sense that using view source is faster than loading up a full IDE or starting from scratch in notepad.<br>
<br>
hopefully some of the quick edits you're talking about are possible through the new tools.&nbsp; click on any HTML attributes or CSS to edit them.&nbsp; and if you want to make larger changes, press the 'Edit' button in the toolbar of the HTML tab.&nbsp; It does a simple
 innerHTML get and put to let you change things easily.&nbsp; and running script is possible from the 'Conole' in the Script tab like any immediate window.<br>
</p></p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><blockquote><div class="quoteUser">stevo_ said:</div><div class="quoteText">
<blockquote>
<div class="quoteUser">section31 said:</div>
<div class="quoteText">*snip*</div>
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Source viewer too? oooo (unless that was in the first beta, dunno - I didn't go nuts over it myself).. this one is a nice improvement - having the broken page icon for pages running in the new standards mode is a much nicer experience.. lots of good experience/polish
 improvements.. <br>
<br>
How is IE8 being distributed? recommended update on WU? low priority?</div></blockquote>
<p>Windows Update will offer - it will never install silently - IE8 Beta 2 to users if:<br>
- they're using XP, Server 2003, or Server 2008 <br>
- they have automatic updates turned on <br>
- the're running IE8 Beta 1<br>
<br>
distrubution details for the final release are still TBD.<br>
<br>
hope this helps!</p></p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><blockquote><div class="quoteUser">webmonkey said:</div><div class="quoteText">
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<div class="quoteUser">littleguru said:</div>
<div class="quoteText">*snip*</div>
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Wahey! Looking better than beta1, and the big PITA bug I had with one of my sites is now solved.<br>
<br>
The buttons (design/html/preview) below this editor appear a bit borked though <img src="http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/content/images/emoticons/emotion-4.gif" alt="Tongue Out"></div></blockquote>
<p>hey guys,<br>
<br>
you're correct that the new source viewer doesn't support editing.&nbsp; we'd like to understand more about how frequently you view source-&gt;edit-&gt;save-&gt;refresh as a development step.&nbsp; our thinking was similar to steveo_'s that itwasn't that common but that could
 be wrong.<br>
<br>
also, you can tweak IE to still use notepad.&nbsp; the steps on on this page: <a href="http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/webdev.asp">
http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/webdev.asp</a>.<br>
<br>
John [MSFT]</p></p>]]></description>
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