Channel 9 - Discussions by MB http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 - Discussions by MB http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/MB/Discussions Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/MB/Discussions en Fri, 24 May 2013 22:10:35 GMT Fri, 24 May 2013 22:10:35 GMT Rev9 0 0 0 Coffeehouse - Interesting Vista Music vs. Network article Over on the Inquirer, the article: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41842 states...

~In this, Vista seems to be showing its legacy of "cooperative multitasking" from Windows 3.0 onward.~

I assume that this is just an inflammatory jibe, and that the writer didn't actually believe that to be true.

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This is naturally the type of thing the Inquirer and the other "Tabloid" sites live for.

The original thread on 2CPU.COM is interesting more for the number of posters who immediately decided the cause was DRM... 'cos it's got it's fingers in everywhere dude !!

Nevertheless, I'm sort of curious as to what it's about and what's causing it.

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Sven Groot wrote:

jamie wrote:

evildictaitor wrote:

Removal of the DRM service in Vista is taking away your choice, not adding to it.



haha

sorry.  um its taking away cpu cycles...

Dear God not this again...

The DRM support is not used at all until you play DRMed content. Until you do that, it's not active. It uses zero CPU cycles.

With Vista's DRM support you have a choice: either you use it, which means you can watch protected Bluray discs or what not. Or you don't use it, in which case it makes absolutely no difference that it is there.

Without Vista's DRM support there's no choice: you just can't play your content.

So how exactly is Vista's DRM support taking away choice?

There are a billion-and-one legitimate reasons to not like Vista (most of which I probably won't personally agree with, but they're still legitimate reasons). DRM isn't one of them.


Self proclaimed Vista DRM expert... Peter Gutmann... would appear to disagree.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

He's at it again, taking to task ZDNet's George Ou.

Personally, I don't know sh1t about how Vista's internals work, as I suspect do most 99.999% of commentators. However, this appears to be another one of those sore-spots that MS is allowing to fester.

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Chinmay007 wrote:

Xaero_Vincent wrote:
Although I prefer Linux these days, I don't see too many issues with Windows Vista on my laptop. Vista's security is very impressive and better than the average Linux distro. The GUI/shell is richer than XP as well, though thats more of my personal opinion.

I think people just like to complain about things, especially when its about a flagship product from a large company and guaranteed to increase page hits.


The thing is, I as many others, don't see any compelling reason to upgrade to Vista. Same thing happened with Windows 2000 though versus XP, but since many many people were upgrading from Windows ME to Windows XP, it (seemed) to catch on much faster. Basically Windows XP is a great OS. It's not a Windows ME. And most people are using it. So while Windows ME to Windows XP was a major improvement in stability and functionality, and certain performence (yes XP booted faster then ME for me), Windows XP -> Windows Vista is not.


Win-2K is NT-5.0
Win-XP is NT-5.1

With Win-XP, Microsoft fixed the problems and the missing features of Win-2K and came up with a polished product, that pretty much does what is says on the box (albeit those features are a bit dated now).

Rather than waiting for NT-7.0... I believe that MS should be focusing on an NT-6.1 release... i.e. doing an "XP" to Vista... and get the current release nailed before charging off on another major release.

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NT-3.5, NT-4.0, NT-5.0, NT-6.0 -- these were all recalcitrant.

NT-3.51, NT-5.1 -- these were the gems.

Why are we being inflicted with Aero-Interface, Media-Players, Media-Authoring tools, Fax & Scan, Meeting-Place, Full-Featured-Browsers, Email/News-Clients, DRM, Desktop-Search, etc etc, as core feature of an operating system?? and why is OS development being slowed down to accommodate those features, when more basic OS needs of Security, Stability and Compatibility are still wanting for work ??

Apple is a niche player, and at the moment, MS seem to be falling into the trap of trying to focus on matching it's niche market features, rather than focusing on it's own strengths... the long suffering business sector... who really don't value those features.

As I see it, the OS would work and progress a whole lot better if MS were to bite the bullet and spin off all the "consumer" features to the applications division, where they could sell (or give away if they need to) these as feature packs or feature upgrades and develop them at their own pace. They then might be forced to find out what people actually WANT vs. what the Windows marketing people want people to want.

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irascian wrote:
Tonight we had one "lead developer" who told us, "not to brag or anything but I'm in the Top 10 of the world's best web developers".


LOL... I'm also in the Top 10 of the world's best web developers.

Unfortunately, my units are millions.

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harumscarum wrote:
   You have a link MB? From what I read all MS technologies..err all MS innovative technologies will be used.


The story I saw was: http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php/fp;2;fpid;10000;o;0;id;273129453

There is also an item on the Inquirer site: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41724

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They've chosen Win-XP and Twisted-Pair only.

The tried and tusted approach, I guess.

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phreaks wrote:

Sven Groot wrote:


I ran across this picture of the A380 cockpit.

Look in the screens on the far left and right, behind the side-stick. Looks like Windows to me.



Ya, it *looks* like it could be windows...

but what exactly is it doing? My guess is probably diagnostics fuel / part monitoring or youtube browsing.


Running Flight Simulator ??  Perplexed

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I settled on Telerik’s ajax solutions, which they’ve recently been updating to their “Prometheus” release (son of Ajax, or something like that) and it just makes my life so much easier. Pretty much “Ajax for Dummies” which suits me just fine... and I can get stuff to work X-Browser/X-Platform with relative ease... albeit at a $cost and some acceptable (to me) performance/functionality trade-offs.

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ScanIAm wrote:

MB wrote:
I see... so a general dissenting comment (which was not actually directed at anyone specific) that unqualified legal commentary is of little virtue... is not only out of place but is worthy of this vitriol ?


You didn't dissent, you essentially said that we are all unqualified to even discuss it.

Then, you repeated yourself, for effect.

Don't pick a fight if you can't handle the outcome.
I didn’t “pick a fight” - That's entirely your interpretation.

I simply said: “I love it when programmers pretend to be lawers.” (sic)

Rjdohnert decided this was directed at him, and went all “taxi-driver” on me.

I then restated my comment for clarification, but this obviously has the opposite to intended effect.

What followed from there was a series of stupid abuse/justification/abuse posts.

I won’t continue to dig this hole any deeper.

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rjdohnert wrote:
And who is pretending to be a lawyer?  Either contribute, quit being stupid, or shut the fuk up.

MB wrote:
I love it when programmers pretend to be lawers.


I'm not the one who claims:: "You dont need to be a lawyer to be able to read and to understand legal documents."

Of course, I suspect that your average lawyer might argue with you about your claim, but your hubris is not my problem.

I am not a lawyer, not do I pretend to understand the implications of legal documents and/or legal decisions... nor do I know what is going through the mind of the legal teams in each company... nor do I know the strategic aims of the cases for each company... so I'm not going to "contribute" to this thread.

If you want to say your bit, then that's your right, but don't be expecting me to dismiss it as anything more than unqualified and worthless commentary from the galleries.

Thank you for your polite advice on what I should do.

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Rossj wrote:

MB wrote:
I love it when programmers pretend to be literate.

LOL... Lawyers ??


Wouldn't be so bad if you hadn't made the same mistake twice


I know how to copy and paste... speling howover... now *THAT* is a reel challenje

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LOL... Lawyers ??

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Of course, on a more serious note... they are also busy discussing the issue of the damaged heat shield and working out how they are going to deal with it.

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So... I was thinking... why not build a bunch of dirty big powerstations on the moon, and get a really *REALLY* long extension lead ??

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We recently had an argument with an mfg where we had sold an "Office Ready" system and the customer couldn't figure out the trial activation (which is not totally obvious) so called the mfg's support. They were told by support that we (the reseller) had installed "experimental" software onto their system, and that they should return it to the reseller to be replaced with the original software. In other words, the support technician had not been trained on "Office Ready" so just came up with their own wild scenario, which left the customer no better off, but thinking we'd done something wrong.

With issues like that in providing support for Windows and Office, you can imagine that the problem of supporting Linux is not one to be treated lightly.

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