I think it looks pretty handy, as it's picking up on the one part of Maven that I thought .NET could do with.

Michael Butler said:

If I could work at Microsoft, it would have to be Steve Ballmer's job. No point trying to work my way up

 

 

I know you're being facetious, but this is kinda my problem when it comes to working in a big company. (And unlike others I would like to work in a big company because I know I work best when others are around me.) But what would I actually DO for a big company?

Technically I'm a dev, I have pretty good dev skills, but that's not what I'D bring to a company, it doesn't reflect my personal strengths.

As a person, I bring ideas, like for everything. You want a feature? Sure, give me ten minutes and I'll give you a list of ideas; I'll even give you rough ideas on how to implement them, and how to gradually introduce them if they're a dramatic change. I've got a bit of a reputation for being a original (that's the polite term) thinker, even when I think I'm being pretty conservative.

But in what job would an organization find that skill useful? Short of CEO? It's vexing that MS haven't written asking me to lead them, but what's a guy to do?

ExceptionDuck said:

Jonwib said:

*snip*

I did something like this to copy Jquery.data function

 

public static class extends{
  public static Dictionary> v = new Dictionary>();
  public static object data(this object o, object key,object val = null)
  {
   if (!v.ContainsKey(o))
   v[o] = new Dictionary();
   if(val!=null)
    return v[o][key];
   v[o][key] = val;
   return val;
  }
}

It won't distinguish between equal simple types, but for complex it works well.

 

With this you can call any object's data method

 

F = new Form();

F.data("language","EN");

 

and inside F you could call

 

this.data("language") and it would return "EN"

Wow, thread Necromancy!

Also, use F# you can extend everything

Minh said:

Maddus Mattus said:

*snip*

What if I had this really common scenario?

 

class Chicken { }

class Hen : Chicken { }

class Rooster : Chicken { }

 

List<Chicken> roster = new List<Chicken>();

 

roster.Add(DoWork());

 

That was going to be my next question

And for all that breakage and confusion, what does it get you really?

Maddus Mattus said:

Massif said:

*snip*

I hate var's

 

they are for lazy programmers

 

and worker.DoWork() would not be possible, because DoWork has a return type. Ignoring the return is not 'first class' as Erik would call it

Or of course:

ojbect thing = worker.DoWork();

And, if you have a class A which inherits from B which inherits from C (and DoWork implementations returning As and Bs) what does:

C wtf = worker.DoWork();

Resolve as? It'd just be too confusing for us humble programmers.

And I'm not letting you take away my god-given right to ignore return values!

Sven Groot said:

Maddus Mattus said:

*snip*

Yes, that's part of it. But so's Bernoulli's principle. Some people (I'm not saying you're one of them) seem to believe that because the equal transit time explanation is wrong, Bernoulli's principle itself is wrong or doesn't apply to how wings generate lift. But that's not true. Bernoulli's principle works and is part of how aircraft generate lift. It's just the equal transit time part of the explanation that's wrong. What you're saying is also part of it, but not the only part. It's really quite complicated.

So the pressure difference comes from something else? Like turbulence under the wing?

Gah... I could look something up, but I'm supposed to be pretending to work.

var whatAmI = worker.DoWork();

Do? and of course what would:

worker.DoWork();

Do when we don't care about the return?

I also don't like it because it doesn't seem properly polymorphic to me, as the return type is clearly related to what the function does, and now the identically named functions are clearly doing something different. But that's just me.

Maddus Mattus said:

Just watched a documentairy on the BBC about the history of power. Was an interesting bit about the steam engine. People used it for 200 years before they understood the theory.

 

Nowadays we take the theory for fact and we forget to check the theory afterwards.

 

Same with the plane. For years scientist thought that the wind over a wing created a vacum beneath the wing. This vacum would generate lift. Recently that theory has been ditched. A wing just bends air, the direction on the bending results in an opposite force (lift). That's why at slower speeds they extend flaps to make the wing bend the air even further.

 

Theory is all good and well, but practise is what we deal with on a day to day basis.

Oh good. That whole "makes the air go faster over the top" thing never made much sense to me.

But have we figured out how sailing works yet?

Charles said:

justth3fax said:

*snip*

I'll ask them if they use integers in their form of computation or, more interestingly, hand them a calculus text book and see if they recognize the language, mathematics, it contains.

 

C

You read Anathem yet then? If not, thoroughly recommended.

I would like something similar to avoid the annoyance of having to fix/patch/etc... my parent's/sisters/brothers/mother-in-laws PC every time I see them (or the even greater annoyance of trying to remotely fix and diagnose over the phone).

Any love for us Family Administrators?

stun said:

Bass said:

*snip*

Yeah it is. I didn't expect that from Opera.

 

However, as I use it more and more, these are really annoying for me.

(1) Ctrl + 1-9 for tab switching <=== by default it is mapped to Speed Dial

(2) Ctrl + PageUp/PageDown for going to next/previous tab <== which I had to configure myself

 

(3) Can't access my bookmarks easily like Google Chrome. I have to focus into the Address Bar to show the Bookmarks and click again.

(4) Bookmarks NOT sortable (is it possible to sort Bookmarks?)

 

 

Do you guys have any other things that you don't like?

Awesome! I don't even need to open speed dial to use it!

What was wrong with Ctrl + tab for tab switching btw? It's pretty standard windows behaviour, and ctrl+shift+tab for going back?

Oh, and opening the bookmarks panel (with the tiny little panel button which is bottom left by default) shows them to be searchable and sortable however you like. Not sure if there's a shortcut to show bookmarks  though.

Awesome, the pretty obvious-if-not-standard ctrl + B shows / hides the bookmarks panel.

Ian2 said:

Maddus Mattus said:

*snip*

I've gone through a few phases with Apple - I bought an iPhone when it first came out and that was/is a superb product (only just recently replaced my original 2G iPhone with an HTC HD2).  Dislike the whole cool thing but being old I'm out of that loop anyway.  Then went on an Apple downer - got pissed off when my MacBook battery died, spoke to Apple, who admitted it was a faulty batch and a known issue, but refused to replace it (cost me GBP70 to replace if I recollect correctly). 

 

Like the look of the iPad but don't want to learn that SDK so probably won't bother with it.

 

Damn, what was this topic about again? 

I can't reproduce your Opera results (I user opera all the time at work, don't care too much at home, but used it enough that my wife now complains about having to use other browsers!). Plus your results for opera are probably worth re-visiting as it's all new and shiny as of today.

Although I did used to have occasional problems posting on C9 from opera, I wonder if 10.50 has fixed that?

AndyC said:

Windows just starts sending every app a WM_QUERYENDSESSION message then, assuming nothing attempts to block shutdown, sends everything an WM_ENDSESSION message. Apps have to respond in a timely fashion to these messages or Windows will just kill them The end result of this is that there is no defined order of apps shutting down and you should never ever try to rely on one.

 

 

Gah! Double post...

AndyC said:

Windows just starts sending every app a WM_QUERYENDSESSION message then, assuming nothing attempts to block shutdown, sends everything an WM_ENDSESSION message. Apps have to respond in a timely fashion to these messages or Windows will just kill them The end result of this is that there is no defined order of apps shutting down and you should never ever try to rely on one.

 

 

I wasn't even thinking of relying on one, I was just wondering if there were any measures to mitigate slow to shut down applications by starting them shutting down first. (Possibly leaving resources free for that app to shut down before kicking everything else off).

I imagine it's almost impossible to calculate which apps will be slow to shut down, so I don't suppose it's worth it.

When I log off / shut down - how does windows decide which order to shut down applications in? I originally assumed it just sent the same shutdown message to all applications. But is it smarter than that? Does it send large applications shutdown messages early? Does it only try to shut down N processes at a time. (Where N is the number of processors the machine has.)

Just idle curiosity really.

W3bbo said:

fred2009 said:

*snip*

Won't you end up with the same problem as before? Apparently music from the Nokia store are DRM encumbered, so once their license servers go down you'll lose your music again.

Have you considered the Amazon MP3 store? They've got a great selection, and it's in MP3 format too.

It's worse than that. Nokia Music is done by the same people who did the MSN music store.

And me...

And if that's not reason enough to run for the hills, then I don't know what is.

(Note: We did make it better, honest.)

Sabot said:

rahsoftware said:

*snip*

I think we should leave this thread as a simplistic demnostration of evolution in-motion.

As for the rules. What are their worth if not define clearly and followed? I see Cupiditas remark for rules as the first calls for civilisation in our evolution story.

So I think we should now ask some fundimental questions. 

Jamie is the Genesis, so omnipotent being ?

When does Sven become Japanese?

Is the world’s hardest riddle the real evolution thread and this a pretender?

Is C9 a microcosm of life as we know it?

Do we care?

Is there enough beer in the world?

Does anyone undestand what is happening in 'Lost' anymore? ... and can explain it to me?

Who is going to buy Blowdarts book?

When will Christmas fall on another day other than the Dec 25th?

Will this thread get locked?

When is the year of Linux?

Will I stop wasting my lunch-hour writting in this thread? - Well I guess yes is the answer to that one ... back to work!

If past experience is anything to go by, the best way to get the thread locked (and hence be the last poster) without being banned is to start using "british swearwords".

Which could be genuine ones, or ones you just made up, it's not like anyone at MS will be able to tell the difference, the bunch of swagbords that they are.

blowdart said:

Massif said:

*snip*

Arguably no meat is environmentally sound; it takes more energy to feed the animals (via grain etc.) that the end product delivers; if you wanted to be environmentally sound it's time to go vegan.

My theory is cruelty makes for tastier food, witness veal and foie gras. I've tried telling vegetables they are horrible and nobody loves them, but spinach still tastes awful no matter how cruel you are to it.

Dr Herbie said:

blowdart said:

*snip*

My in-laws have two donkeys.  They are called Dinky and Ted.
They like cold toast.

Herbie

"cold toast"? That's awfully specific for a Donkey.

I've not eaten horse though, apparantly it's very nice. We're eating a relatively large amount of veal at the moment since discovering that:
a - now "ethical" or "pink" veal is commonly available that it's the ethical and environmentally sound meat to eat.
b - it's suprising cheap and delicious, probably because everyone still thinks it's cruel.

Marvellous all round.

jh71283 said:

evildictaitor said:

*snip*

I bet she would have been much better is she was a gNuisance user.....

harumscarum said:

Massif said:

*snip*

Nokia? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/10/02/dlnokia102.xml

I kinda wish I had prizes to give out, but yes. harumscarum hits the nail on the head first try.

Not dramatic new technology or world-changing or anything, but cool to actually be part of something properly big. I worked on Comes With Music, and I'm still working on it. Plenty to do, plenty to do...

littleguru said:

Dr Herbie said:

*snip*

Facebook 2, Facebook 2, Facebook 2, ...

Dr Herbie said:

harumscarum said:

*snip*

... It was Tom Hanks ...

Herbie

Dr Herbie said:

harumscarum said:

*snip*

... It was Tom Hanks ...

Herbie

Tom Hanks you say... Hmmm...

Well, if you say so.