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  • 100 million downloads of Apache OpenOffice

    , Bass wrote

    https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces56

    I'm not really an OpenOffice/LibreOffice user, but apparently some people are. This doesn't count Linux distros that bundle it, as well as LibreOffice which is a popular fork of it.

     

    I'm sure that the actual number of downloads is far greater than 100 million.

    Unfortunately, the number of downloads is one of the most useless stats ever fostered on the internet. 

    I was one of those 100 million, and I'm also one of an unknown number who used it once, then never opened it again. 

    It's dirt cheap to download stuff; what is really interesting is how many are actively using it.

  • Bill Gates sure that Google Glass will be successful

    , 00010101 wrote

    *snip*

    Microsoft did in fact let my project have a lot of free stuff, in fact it was free stuff they valued at well into 6 figures. Then earlier this year they offered this:

    https://www.microsoft.com/BizSpark/plus/default.aspx

    60k in Azure credits, which I kindly, or not so kindly declined depending on your definition of the word kind.

    Then why are you always whining like a little girl?

    And NO, I and my team am not special by any means.

    And by you and your team, you actually mean just you. But that's not important.  You clearly, and delusionally, believe that you are doing something so important that Microsoft should prostrate itself before you and . . .  give you loads of free stuff.

    Not how it works.

     

    I am looking for the free that says, "hey, we'll give you this for free with no strings attached, and because of our good will, we hope you do business with us in the future. We're not going to ask you to port over platforms or change your business plan for this one thing"

    Ah, I see your problem. You don't understand how Google makes its money. Yes, Microsoft wants something in return, and so does Google.  Google wants access to your customers personal information and their habits (both online and offline), which they can sell to third parties or use for targeted advertising. That's why all their free stuff requires they sign up with Google to make it work.

    It's not that Google doesn't have strings; it's that you've just chosen to ignore them.

    This patent is interesting though, and weirdly enough, if they can figure out a way to make it work then Microsoft will come up smelling like a privacy hero: releasing a technology that will protect normal people from all those creepy glass wearers hanging around under mall staircases. That's probably how they'll advertise it, anyway.

    And though you'd like to believe it, Gates filing a patent doesn't actually mean he thinks the product will be a success. Filing a patent costs next to nothing, and guarantees (more or less) that if Glass does take off, then Microsoft is ready to monetise protecting normal people from it.

    Heck, Google won't even allow Glass to be worn at their board meetings; what does that tell you.

     

     

  • Bill Gates sure that Google Glass will be successful

    , 00010101 wrote

    Well, I think a lot of companies are starting to put Microsoft tech behind them at this point.

    I know it still hasn't hit them financially worldwide, but the tail end of that will hit them soon enough.

    They were hurt bad enough in the retail markets that they started mass eBay-ing their goods at 70-80% off through various vendors.

    They also had a re-organization, so I think they are probably not in such good shape at this point.

    I can't say I wish them well, because I don't, but I hope that some of them that made good money have the sense to either fund or start new companies, because it looks like a few SV companies and funds are going to have complete monopoly control of the future of technology otherwise.

     

    And this is all because they wouldn't let you have some free stuff.

    Amazing.

     

  • Heartbleed

    , fanbaby wrote

    *facepalm* not again..

    Anecdotes, like heartbleed, mean nothing. Open source is more secure for the reasons mentioned above.

     

     

    Or we could simply ignore the problem, yes.

  • Heartbleed

    , bondsbw wrote

    *snip*

    I think this is the takeaway.  As I understand, there was a formal review and the reviewer didn't catch it.  But then again, why should your company trust an unpaid external reviewer when it comes to critical software like this?

    The unfortunate reality is that while open source is a great way to standardize and share code, it really isn't some panacea where the company can get code completely for free.  The company either needs to hire reviewers for mission-critical open source software, or (more realistically) they need to hire an outside firm that does this and provides a certain level of guarantee/insurance.

    The one thing they don't need to do is assume anything mission-critical they find on Github is "good enough as-is".

     

    Precisely!

  • Heartbleed

    , KirbyFC wrote

    *snip*This is one of the big myths surrounding open source.

    The concept of open source began many years ago when some programmers got together and said "Hey, wouldn't it be great if everyone made their source available to look at, modify, etc...."    And it's a great idea -- IF you are a programmer. But that's the problem.  The vast majority of people in the world are not programmers.

    In *THEORY* anyone can look at the source code.  In *REALITY* the number of people looking at the source code is very small.  Other than the people actually working on the code, very few people are looking at the source closely enough to find a serious problem. This is not meant as a criticism of open source, it is simply reality.

    This is precisely my point. I think the problem is this notion of 'more eyes on code' when what we really should be concerned with is 'what eyes and if they're any good.'

    Now the past few outfits I've worked for have employed third parties to look for vulnerabilities, and I think that perhaps the OS community should look into setting up some sort of body of experts who can advise on this sort of thing. A well-maintained site so that volunteers know what's expected of them, can get advice on how to test for known vulnerabilities, how to avoid script injection etc.

     

  • Heartbleed

    I always thought that one of the advantages of open source code is that bugs are picked up more quickly because there are more eyes on the code.

    Is this simply a case of 'not all OS projects are created equal' or do we need some sort of formal review process for critical stuff like this to actually prove it was written and tested by people who know what they're doing?

  • Office for iPad

    , Bass wrote

    Why would you pay a yearly subscription for this when iWork is free and Apple puts serious effort into making it run well on iPad.

    Because you've got an enterprise vault full of Word documents that you still need to update.

  • Office for iPad

    , Sven Groot wrote

    *snip*

     And as far as I can tell, it's only for the actual in-app payment of the first year. After that, MS gets 100%.

    Nope, the in-app purchase is made through your iCloud account, so every time it is renewed, Apple gets 30%. 

    This is why Amazon doesn't support purchases through the Kindle app on iOS. If you start your subscription on iOS then switch to Android, Apple will still get a cut, unless you stop the subscription and renew it on Android.

  • Office for iPad

    , cbae wrote

     Edit: I just read Apple is getting 30% of the Office 365 subscription.

    http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/27/apple-gets-its-30-take-on-office-365-subscriptions-microsoft-sells-through-office-for-ipad/

    I can't believe they agreed to that.

    Well they didn't really have a choice, did they?

    The Surface hasn't turned out to be as much as a draw as Microsoft had hoped, and the lack of Office on the iPad hasn't really put a dent in Apple's sales. 

    Besides, if Apple had given Microsoft a free ride then their developers would have been, quite rightly, up in arms. 

    Still, as someone has already pointed out, consumers are not going to sign up for an Office subscription, so most of the sales are going to be for enterprise users who still want to stick with Office (though from what I've seen, most outfits are happy with earlier versions that they don't have to shell out yearly for), and the enterprise customers are not going to be buying this through the app store.

    Apple's ongoing developers are more important to Apple than Microsoft, so the 30% is no surprise; there was no way Apple could afford to p*** off its developers by giving MS a free ride on the app store. 

    It's very telling that on the day of the launch, Tim Cook greets the new addition to the iPad and then goes on to tout their  iWork, Evernote (a competitor to OneNote) and Paper (has not comparison). 

    http://recode.net/2014/03/27/microsoft-is-selling-office-365-within-ipad-apps-and-apple-is-getting-its-30-percent-cut/

    Nope, the 30% cut is no surprise. The only surprise is how long it took MS to cave in and agree to it.