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Initially I thought I might be able to find tips and other resources on multi-monitor use, but it looks like it's just meant to be a gallery and forum. Which isn't very interesting to me.

Anyway, let's talk about the design, because it doesn't look like you've thought about it yet - just an observation, not trying to criticise.

The expanded menu implies to me that I'm currently meant to be on the "your systems" page even when I'm actually somewhere else. Think of it like when you're using Explorer to drill down to a folder and the current folder is indented the farthest. Expand the menu on click or hover.

The menu also has very few items and could easily be placed horizontally across the page to make better use of space. If the menu begins to fill up with new links you could separate the less important links to another menu that's out of the way.

Making a hierarchy were the home page is the parent is totally unnecessary.

ManipUni said:

Not that I found. You can disable each type of accelerator one by one but that doesn't really fix the problem.

One of many reasons why I am running Firefox 3.1 which in my opinion is better than Firefox 3.0 and IE8. They finally got the scroll wheel problem fixed and also improved the UI. In fact most of my issues with Firefox are gone in this release. The only thing I continue to dislike about Firefox is the terrible Bookmarks management stuff (which is pretty bad in IE8 too).

If there are any browser devs reading here is a revolutionary feature: Search on the bookmarks/favorites! I know mind blowing, right?

What do you call this?

I'd agree there's a lot of improvements that could be done, but Firefox's bookmark manager does have nearly all the features you'll need.

In regards to searching the address bar...

IE 6 had that too...

No, IE6 and IE7 can only autocomplete based on the first few characters you type. Firefox 3, Opera, IE8 and Chrome will search your entire history and bookmarks list from the address bar, each browser uses a range of meta data to make searching easier so you don't have to start with "http://asd...".

Duncanma said:

Bass said:

*snip*

so I did it to quickly? or too slowly? I'll see what I can do... Epiphany was treated as an unsupported browser due to a broken Gecko check in my code, I've fixed that though and will be deploying the fix soon

I just discovered that when I click "Add" to submit a reply the page actually reloads and shows my post! Did you change something?

Using Minefield nightly.

It seems blurry... and reminds me of a leaf...

There's been a change since the last time I looked the other day, now the menu is in the center of the page.

But really, it's a weak looking design with so many contrasting elements mashed together and nothing to draw your interest, and who's going to care about the big ad in the middle of the page? Does it remind anyone else of those mainstream pay-per-click ads?

"That news bar needs to be a at least twice as high as it is now. It just disappears even with it having a black background."

Eye-tracking studies show that people ignore dark areas on light pages, the black bar was that last thing I noticed.

The current MS homepage sucks as well.

Duncanma said:

We do care... I've tried a couple of times to run that Ubuntu install that sets it up as a block of hard drive space on windows... but for various unimportant reasons it has never completed... I should probably download the iso and do a VPC setup

http://virtualbox.org will run Ubuntu from a Windows host.

Sven Groot said:

Weird that no one else can reproduce this. It's 100% consistent here, even after clearing the cache. It only happens on that one thread, all others are fine.

We'll chalk it up to more C9+IE8 weirdness. C9 and IE8 are a terrible combination at the moment. C9 manages to crash IE8 (which fortunately brings down only the one tab) about ten times a day, because of simple actions like selecting text or scrolling. No other site does that in IE8, so I'm not sure what's causing it.

No, we can reproduce the issue, albeit in different browsers.

See here:

1. http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Feedback/411450-Paging-in-Firefox-3-in-Linux/
2. http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Feedback/420785-Can-change-pages-but-cant-create-thread-with-JavaScript-disabled/

I've been getting around it by copying and pasting the link of the page number link, just right click and copy.

jamie said:

figuerres said:

*snip*

as much as you hate tables and frontpage .. i hate css and doctype 

well - I guess loading 100 images isnt a good idea.. haha
http://www.jamiegrant.com/advertising.htm

take 20 seconds here - but you get dizzy trying to view them

I think ill just put 5 images in each one ... not 100

The doctype shouldn't be added after you've built your site, it should be there from the start before you even put something between the body tags.

One of the many benefits of standards compliance mode is that tables inherit font styles of their parent elements, which means you don't have to set the same font several times in the same document. There's also the fact that IE in quirks mode doesn't handle the combination of width and padding correctly, while all other browsers do, this can give you wildly different results.

When you did put the doctype in, did you ensure that it was at the very very very top of the page with absolutely no text/code whatsoever before it? Because otherwise IE will fail to notice it. You can check if a page is in standards complaince mode by bookmarking this link and using it on a specific page, it should say either "Quirks mode" (bad) or "CSS1 Compat" (good), do the same test in different browsers to be sure.

Dodo said:

For your issue, try this in your primary screen mode stylesheet:

iframe { background-color: inherit; }

IE uses the color defined in the Windows settings for the Window background color in input and text fields as its default. Not inheriting the background color in iframes is the right behavior by the way, this means Firefox does it wrong, also with resizing the image.

PS: Put a DOCTYPE in. For design only purposes, the XHTML1.0 Transitional is best. Make sure this is the first in any Document you have:

<!DOCTYPE html
     PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">

What makes you say Firefox does it wrong, source? It's only a default value anyway - the browser is allowed to set its own defaults.

And Jamie, this isn't why developers like Firefox, we like it mostly because of Firebug and other handy addons.

I agree with your assessment Jamie, but the down arrow should still be closer to the back/forward buttons, otherwise users could mistakingly relate it to the address bar.