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I recently went through a few demos of ASP.NET MVC. 

I was thoroughly dissappointed. 

This doesn't seem like a typical Microsoft product to me as in there is nothing truly innovative, unique, or even interesting about the implementation.  It seems alot like Ruby on Rails (thank God they didn't use the whole 'ActiveRecord' crap) with a .NET Twist to it.

Also, if you take a look at the evolution of how Microsoft Products and Technologies are built, ASP.NET MVC is moving against the grain.  For example, WPF uses the concept of separating markup from code.  The same goes for Silverlight.  ASP.NET also used a more lax model of this before ASP.NET MVC.  Yet, with ASP.NET MVC we are shifting the paradigm back to integration of markup and code using those damned <% %> tags. 

All of a sudden, I feel like I am coding in Classic ASP, PHP, etc.  I don't like it.  It lacks creativity and is a shift towards a boring standard of web development.

Also, I have been wondering if the creation of ASP.NET MVC is admission of failure on the part of ASP.NET WebForms? 

Finally, I attended VS Live here in Orlando and there was one speaker who was excellent.  He did some talks on Silverlight, SOA, etc.  One thing he noted is that AJAX is the last gasp of HTML.  I understand his premise now as I prefer to start using Microsoft Silverlight rather than ASP.NET MVC (which is the next version of ASP.NET from what I have heard).  Silverlight offers the tools and experience that I am used to with other Microsoft Products. 

ASP.NET MVC is an awkward step backwards that doesn't fit the mold of what Microsoft has produced for us developers to be creative with.

I understand why the ASP.NET team is moving in this direction but there has to be a better way - a Microsoft way to innovate this MVC concept.

Let's not change the mantra to:  Your Potential.  Our Passive Agressiveness. 

Peace.

-SM

Chadk said:

Bas said:

*snip*

This is hardly anything new. Rails can do this too, and it's in v2 already. ASP.NET MVC is pretty much just a copy of that, which isn't even V1.

Mind you, Rails is much more mature. It even has it's own data layer!

RobbieCrusoe wrote:

But why is it highly desirable?... Because it is affiliated with Microsoft?  What's wrong with @yahoo, @gmail, @hotmail and coutless others that allow a sensible email address.  Why do we need yet another email domain for fanbois to drool over?

Or am I just too old to understand?

AlkalineProdigy wrote:



I was just asking if someone had an extra key I didnt want to get flamed for it.  It was just a simple question.

add name="ScriptResource" preCondition="integratedMode" verb="GET,LOST" path="ScriptResource.axd" type="System.Web.Handlers.ScriptResourceHandler, System.Web.Extensions, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31BF3856AD364E35"/>

Lloyd_Humph wrote:



O RLY?

And be sure to stay tuned for "My Thoughts" after the jump...

The Fifth of November

phreaks wrote:


What would Robert the milf hunting cradle robber say?

Anyone here diagnosed when they were a kid and now is a genius programmer?

-SM