@bondsbw: Who gives a sh*t what caused it. You know damn well that that there is absolutely no chance that we can do anything to reverse the effects of going off the gold standard. It's a stupid point and adds nothing to the issue.
You're tired of people not taking responsibility for their actions? I'm tired of privileged sociopaths arguing about this topic like they have any clue what it is like to live on that wage. How do I know you and the rest of us are privileged? Because statistically, you are male, white, and make far and above minimum. You've got yours and you've told yourself that you got there through patience and hard work. The reality is that you were born lucky; you have above average intelligence and an aptitude for things that pay well. You make far too much money for the work you do when compared to the folks who can't hope to ever reach the positions you have. You will live longer, better, happier, and in the end, will pass all that along to any progeny you have so the cycle can continue.
Honestly, just stop with the libertarian wet dreams and try and put yourself in the position of people who don't actually have all of this going for them. Until we collectively decide that we just want to cull the herd of untouchables, we need to accept that some of them won't ever do much better than minimum, and there are waaaaaaay more people in that position than there are of you, so it's to everyone's advantage to stop squeezing them.
Someone decided to step out of this conversation when I mentioned slavery, but for some of these folks, it's not much better.
God-dammit I hate people sometimes.