Channel 9 - Discussions by SimonDa http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 - Discussions by SimonDa http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/SimonDa/Discussions Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/SimonDa/Discussions en Thu, 23 May 2013 07:00:27 GMT Thu, 23 May 2013 07:00:27 GMT Rev9 0 0 0 Tech Off - Distributing fonts... legal?

Hi,

First off, you probably want to talk to a real attorney on this. I don't think there are people here qualified to provide the legal advice you need.

Secondly, most font makers would view the bitmap font you're creating a derivative font, and most font EULAs don't allow the creation and/or redist of derivative fonts, even bitmap ones.

Thirdly the "embedding permissions" encoded into TrueType or OpenType fonts only relate to embedding in "documents" not apps. See the OpenType spec fstype section for details.

Fourthly, we're looking at a redist package for Segoe UI, contact me off-list to get details once it's ready to go.


Cheers, Si

Lead PM for fonts, Microsoft typography - simonda@...


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Cheers, Si

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Cheers, Si  

 

 

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/250665-Is-segoeUIttf-installed-with-ie7/35588a4adf664b25ba359dec0040c580#35588a4adf664b25ba359dec0040c580 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:14:23 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/250665-Is-segoeUIttf-installed-with-ie7/35588a4adf664b25ba359dec0040c580#35588a4adf664b25ba359dec0040c580 SimonDa 11 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/SimonDa/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is segoeUI.ttf installed with ie7? As far as I know Segoe UI is not part of IE. Looking at IE7 on my XP machine with the fonts installed I do not see them used in help or the UI. I'm going to remove the fonts and reinstall IE7 to confirm.

Two weights of Franklin Gothic were first included in Windows XP (got carried across to Vista) and were used in the UI of Windows XP. I would expect that these were the ones the ms.com team specified over at ms.com.

Cheers, Si

Lead PM, Microsoft typography

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In Windows Vista we've had time to make new fonts for Japanese, CHT, CHS and Korean designed with ClearType in mind. These were required because Avalon does not support embedded bitmaps in TrueType fonts (or old-style .FON bitmap fonts for that matter)

Further Arial Unicode has never shipped as part of Windows. It comes with Office and is rarely installed these days.

Also no there’s no current way to have different rendering paths on different displays attached to a Windows machine. We realize that this makes life difficult for some users especially those that may have a Laptop and an external LCD panel that happens to have BGR oriented sub-pixels.

Finally I should state the obvious in that hacking our fonts violates our EULA, and care should be taken not to let such modified fonts out into the wild.

Cheers, Si
Lead PM for fonts, Microsoft Typography, Windows International

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