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  • Joe Duffy's Blog

    @Charles: I like AND and I am not saying one is better and the other must die. 

    I did not realize that this will be sold as a new language.   I like it better that it will be sold this way.  We all know C# and Java is/.was based on C++.   The problem with C++ is that it is committee driven and you cannot really drive a vision on making it better.   It really just gets more crap added that rarely gets used by all the compiler vendors.  If you want portable reusable C++ code you avoid this problem.  Reading Joe Duffy's Blog I think he has the right vision.  

  • Joe Duffy's Blog

    How does Anders Hejlsberg feel about this project?   I am just wondering because I brought up memory allocation with destructors with him after the initial C# release.   Anders never understood why you would need to manage memory if you have a good garbage collector.   I have done a lot of embedded programming and memory handling is more important than leaving it to a GC .   If this project goes well it could breathe a lot of life into a new way for embedded projects.  

    Anyway very interesting and I hope it becomes real and does not get killed off.

  • A free year of Skype screen sharing and group video

    @blowdart: Thanks.  Worked for me.  

  • Blaise Ag├╝era y Arcas

    The problem is when the brilliant ones are not running the show.   You have the less capable people who don't even know the value of the brilliant ones and probably just want them out so they look better.   Microsoft needs a huge shakeup at the top and I just do not know what is taking so long.  They are moving a lot slower than usual to correct their missteps.

  • Mads Torgersen @ NDC London : The Future of C#

    @Richard.Hein: The more stuff you put in to reduce a few lines of code make the language less portable.  By portable I mean if you have to take code and move it to a different platform and language but still have the same functionality.    You can pass in an out class ,  fill it in ,  and return it with all your multiple returns in it.  Easily ported to C++ with a pointer return to a class.   When you add some weird syntax and feature it now makes it less trivial to port.   I understand the wants and needs by developers,  just know that it has consequences especially if the language dies off.  There is a lot that can be done to C# to improve it, I just think it should stay mainstream as much as possible so it can be ported.  

    In fact I ported a lot of C# to C++ and Java to C# and vice versa when needed and I hope this does not become more difficult. 

  • Build 2014

    @11101110: Hey if your mom wont let you go that's ok but don't whine about the conference that sells out every year.

  • MS working on a same compiler for C++ AND C# ! Not in 'incubation' but for production !

    Yes this is moving forward.   I am not a fan of adding all these little features to C# just to make something you already can do easier but adds more syntax and makes the language less mainstream.   For example, returning multiple parameters.  You can make a struct or class, pass it in as ref or make an out parameter and you have the same functionality.   Adding features is NOT always a good thing and makes the language less maintainable and more obscure.   Taking what you have already and making it faster and having it work on more platforms is what should be happening first.    You see, the more unneeded crap you stick into the language,  the harder it is to port to newer places.  I hope they hold off on any features until they move it completely to native first.

  • Build 2014

    Ok what will be the freebies this time.

    Conference price is high enough where they give away some new Nokia tablets or phones.

    Who,s going?  San Fran again.

    Registration opens

    Jan 14, 2014 at 9am PST

    $2095

     

  • Windows 8 Threshold rumors

    @DeathByVisualStudio: I agree.  I watch videos, play card games, and use maps on the tablet and it is great for that.   Just don't use it much for work and I still don't care for the browser versus the desktop browser. 

    Also, I think the touchscreen on laptops was a little over the top.   I am not leaving my hands off of the keyboard or mouse to move them to the screen.   Again, tablet and phone it is fine to have touch. (some blackberry people might not agree)   

    Touchscreens have good uses as point of sales, control panels, etc.   Does not mean everything has to be touch.  

  • Windows 8 Threshold rumors

    Corporations don't want to retrain people on simple things like knowing where the start menu is.  It is not about moving cheese or innovation.  

    If innovation at Microsoft is taking things out and replacing them with other useless features then Microsoft has a lot more problems ahead.   Also innovation is not killing useful technologies like Silverlight just so they can have useless store apps.  It also is not taking applications that run in multiple windows on a big monitor and simplifying them to run in 1 window filling up your entire screen.  Again, the tablet should not hinder the desktop.

    I am with DBVS on this one.  Sinofsky was arrogant and stupid and now Microsoft is correcting course so they can upgrade their huge customer base.