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  • windows changes and what goes on at hq

     It was such a disaster of mixed UI concepts I bet the Quality group at Microsoft just gave up trying to point out the problems.   The Vista Designers are actually happy now because they are no longer the worst windows release.  

    Windows 10 still has problems that windows 8 has.   Like Settings and Windows update.   It shows up in the menu under settings. Also you still have control panel and windows update.   Both do the same thing but different GUI's.  They cannot decide between the Metro windows and desktop windows.  Also, like Bitflipper mentioned, the new UI for things like network setup etc. are dumbed down with much less information than previous windows 7 versions had.  So its back to hunting in the registry for detailed settings.  I am skeptical like others that this release won't be ready.   The Quality group is stocking up on some good weed to smoke in the June timeframe.

  • windows changes and what goes on at hq

    @BitFlipper: I agree with all your points. Bondsbw talks as if others agree with his viewpoint but I don't see or know of anyone who does.  Windows 10 has these Metro windows now as windowed applications floating around.   If you look at windows 10 icons (I don't care religiously about what they do here) Microsoft is basically making the desktop look like a MAC.  Is this true leadership for Microsoft?  I have to agree that Microsoft at this point is not sure what it wants to do.  

    By the way,  bondsbw if you have Bluetooth on your laptop running windows desktop, click on the Bluetooth icon in the taskbar and select show Bluetooth devices,  and a big metro user interface pops up filling your screen.  Why?   Why does the desktop user need to see this crappy metro interface to see Bluetooth devices?  I think that is some of what bitflipper is referring to as a messed up desktop.

  • Before Surface Pro 4

    , blowdart wrote

    Whatever happened to being content with a backpack? Bloody youngsters.

    I think it went the way of the $595 registration fee. 

  • Before Surface Pro 4

    @cheong:

    , cheong wrote

    Que this is the giveaway we have for this year's Build event (it's price looks just right).

    This is not a developer device but more of a consumer device.  They will give away a surface 4 pro at Build.

  • windows changes and what goes on at hq

    , BitFlipper wrote

    *snip*

    When you choose to ignore all the negative feedback, the listener will ultimately take their business somewhere else.

    That's the part that does not sink in for bondsbw.  The listeners already voted and the sales numbers and money is not there for Microsoft.  Its so bad that they are scrambling to get Windows 10 out ASAP.

  • windows changes and what goes on at hq

    , bondsbw wrote

    *snip*

    You and several others on this board just seem to hate the idea of change.  All I can say is, get over it.  It happens, and it will continue to happen so long as there is healthy market competition.

    No you and several people want UI changes.  Financial numbers speak loudly and you are wrong if you think you are in the majority.   You can tweak things and add major features and improvements but keep the learned experience stable.  People want to become more efficient and more productive so I want to learn new things and not relearn old things.

    If Microsoft wants to make a new product that is really new and not touted as a replacement I am all for that.  This can be for guys like you who like new toys and don't make money using an OS like the majority of us.   There are a lot of new applications to write to solve problems and that is where I want to spend my time.   I don't want to teach my customers how to use an OS again for funs sake.

  • Windows 10 stinks!

    @BitFlipper:I don't see those problems you are talking about on resolution of VM's.  I can pick whatever resolution I want. 

    Also, there are nice features like running a Linux machine in a VM with support for nightly backups and Ethernet ports are optimized on certain distributions.   Its not perfect but it is a feature windows 7 does not have.   Also these VMs can emulate phone hardware for testing your phone apps. 

    So did Windows 10 fix your audio latency problems?

  • Windows 10 stinks!

    @figuerres: The developer at Microsoft does what he/she is told and does not get to decide how something should  work.  That is done by someone up the food chain like the Product Manager/Marketing Director etc.  So don't worry these rants as you call them don't reach the developer and get filtered down to a requirement before he/she sees it.  Also, if you want to run a successful company remember that the customer is always right. They are the reason you get paid.  This is even more important when you start your own company unless you like to live on the street and not eat.   The only real way to measure customer happiness is financially because it is rare for people to make an effort to send a compliment but they will always make an effort to complain.   Go to amazon and see what people say about windows 8 compared to windows 7.   If your successor product gets lower reviews you are in trouble.  Personally I don't mind windows 8 and some new features, but it is not what I call an improvement from usability standpoint over windows 7. 

  • Windows 10 stinks!

    @wastingtimewithforums:I have to agree with about everything you said above but you must have some things you do like going forward in Windows.   If not, what is the alternative?  Don't mention anything with Apple either because they are worse.

  • Windows 10 stinks!

    I think Windows 10 is an improvement over Windows 8 and there are a lot of changes happening underneath the GUI that make it even better.   It will be able to run on many devices and this alone is a huge deal where it is easier to deploy an application to a phone, IOT device, or laptop or tablet.  The ability to run virtual machines and now virtual desktops is a feature that is overlooked but is useful for people who might want a business/job desktop and personal desktop.   I am not a fan of changing a GUI drastically because I do not want to relearn how to use an OS I have gotten used to and understand where things are.   No big company wants to retrain users on an OS when they have SAP or Oracle business systems that are hard to use already and cause enough headaches.   Windows 10 will sell well if it looks like Windows 7.  It reminds me of Coke when it changed the formula and taste.  Customers get angry and don't buy the new stuff.   They can keep making it modular, faster, and available to new platforms but keep the same look and feel and they will be successful.  Sometimes simple is the most profitable.