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  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    @cbae:I don't mind the new icons.   I will tell you though it is looking more like an Apple OS with the newer icons.  That's ok,  we are all getting used to Microsoft the follower. 

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    @BitFlipper:As a developer I also want the desktop to get the new API support like the store apps with the new C# native compiler.   Support the desktop while making a tablet OS.  I think Microsoft can walk and chew gum at the same time. 

    By the way, in Windows 10 if you pull up the network browser, you get flat simple icons for computers but the devices as printers are still the old style.  It would be nice to know if there is a plan here or is it a hodge podge of stuff.  I know it is a preview but what is the plan?

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    @bondsbw: No, I am not.   I have no idea what you are showing me but it is not a good example.  Also, just because you use shadows to show a depth perspective does not negate the use of a color change also.   They are not mutually exclusive.  The best of both worlds is easily achieved.   If you were doing real UI you would never have a black font on red.   It would be a white font.  Do you just slap this together from a web search?  I won't see your point but that's OK. 

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    , Bas wrote

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    Since Windows 1.0, the only way to tell which window was active was because elements in the title bar had a different color. So yeah, apparently that has been enough for decades.

    Which window is active is only one item.   I talking about tabs, menus, buttons, etc.  If you really think it is easier to tell which tab is active in a flat scenario over one in windows 7 pre flat era then I am done talking with you and we just disagree.

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    , BitFlipper wrote

    *snip*

    It is possible to create beautiful UIs that don't resemble any physical object, yet are styled/textured in such a way to convey a lot of practical functionality without being in the way. MS just gave up trying it seems, and the Kool-Aid drinkers somehow turned this into a good thing.

    ++ Well said BitFlipper.   It is because we have so many non computer literate users still hanging around that we need visual cues that are more pronounced.  Bas thinks a little color variations is enough and shading is too hard.  Cbae thinks a little 3D and shading sucks up CPU cycles.  We don't want our phones getting too hot..   

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    , Bas wrote

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    Why should it be better? Why can't it be as good?
     

     

    Did you live in Rochester,NY. and work for Kodak.   That use to be their motto.   It is GM's motto too but the guy in charge of the US government rewarded this type of behavior and kept that loser of a company going.   Hopefully Microsoft does not make it there motto.  Don't hear that talk from Elon Musk.

     

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  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    @bondsbw:

    , bondsbw wrote

    @BitFlipper:

    I'm not sure why people here hate flat.  Skeuomorphism is a great learning tool but I would expect people familiar with computer systems to be well past that need.

    Why do you like flat?  How is flat better in seeing what tab is selected on IE or Outlook?   I do hate flat and to me it is going backwards in progress.  Lets go back to commander Keen for gaming.(see if you remember that one) .  I would like to have an option to not be flat, but Microsoft started with Office and then proceeded to Visual Studio and ruined all the apps.   I agree with Bitflipper too that they rushed into the flat world without any decent graphics.  I mean when you see Windows8/10 boot up the light blue window looks like something that preceeded windows xp or window 7.   Are the graphic artists so lazy at Microsoft now that they draw 4 squares with a blue marker and put their feet up and say I am done for the year? 

  • Windows 10, first thoughts.

    @BitFlipper: I like that,  flat and ugly -- fugly.  Good name for the backwards mentality on flat and the simplistic graphics that make it ugly, comic strip like, and boring.

    Graphic artists need to work too and not just for game developers.  Bring back depth and good graphics and don't follow Apple(you know the bad company that destroyed Finland)

  • They might have well said...

    @magicalclick: Its not about hate and criticism.  It about business and knowing what your users want.   They need to stick with their customers ,  make their life easier (in end user and developer) and the love fest will come back.   

    Someone mentioned that not only did Microsoft not get Apple and Googles customers,  they managed to lose the ones they already had chasing the ones they would never get.