Channel 9 - Discussions by ThomasAesir http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 - Discussions by ThomasAesir http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions en Wed, 22 May 2013 13:38:39 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 13:38:39 GMT Rev9 0 0 0 Coffeehouse - Managed DirectX in Vista Hi, I was wondering if Managed DirectX is going to be shipped with Vista?

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/114370-Managed-DirectX-in-Vista/114370#114370 Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:00:51 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/114370-Managed-DirectX-in-Vista/114370#114370 ThomasAesir 2 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Channel 9 and Opera Channel 9 seems to work well with Opera (Web Browser) until you try to post anything. Posting works, but none of the formatting is kept. Don't you guys ever do any testing?

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JChung2006 wrote:
There are plenty of VB client applications running on business desktops all across the world, or maybe you've just chosen to selectively ignore the popularity of VB so that your 'C++ is more popular' view isn't shattered by pesky things like fact and reality.
VB.NET and C# are all well and good for custom business applications where you control the enviroment but how many shrinkwrap applications get build in them? Hell, even Microsoft does't release shrinkwrap applications which require the .Net Framework.

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Shmuelpro wrote:

First of all 64bit will increase efficiency by at least 20% in 32Bit apps that’s at least what was told at the conference and shown with Maya and Flight Simulator and the output was extraordinary!!!

No I don’t think it was Route64 Training Tour at least from what I understood.




Hmmm do they mean that a 64-bit cpu will run a 32-bit app with 20% more efficiency or that Windows XP 64 will run the 32-bit app more efficiently?

It would be fantastic if Windows XP 64 was 20% more efficient than the current Windows XP 32.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/34957-xp-64-bit/c005dac58ead477fa0199dea013c5210#c005dac58ead477fa0199dea013c5210 Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:01:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/34957-xp-64-bit/c005dac58ead477fa0199dea013c5210#c005dac58ead477fa0199dea013c5210 ThomasAesir 21 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - xp 64-bit
Shmuelpro wrote:

It is defiantly worth every penny if you are planning to use it fully.

64bit is especially good if you are doing 3D stuff like Maya, play games with great graphics or video they all will become faster and look better.




Well Maya isn't out a as 64bit program so it wouldn't make all that much difference. With any luck the next Maya upgrade should be around May and i'm hoping it will be 64bit.

Lightwave now has a 64bit version.

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Dr. Shim wrote:
I doubt that it's worth the effort for him to start one. Sure, it would be awesome, but I'm sure the comments he'd recieve would defeat the purpose.


He could have someone review the comments and only post the relevant ones.

They could post the 5 best comments of the day. It would be like reader comments to a magazine. There are no guarantees that your comments are going to be published but its nice when they do.

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  • Support XHTML via standards mode in IE
  • Allow Managed Direct3D to run in IE (fix whatever security issue[s] doesn't allow that to happen at the moment)
  • Promote the .Net runtime to normal people
  • Keep doing projects like "VB.Net at the Movies" and add more content to them
  • Buy the BeOS IP from Palm and create an MS BeOS [with .Net support]


oh and fix the Firefox posting bug!

how hard can it be to collect data from a form post?

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Holesinswiss wrote:

Nearly Microsoft's entire application base are already written in C++. They would be foolish to rewrite even just the GUIs for the sake of implementing .NET and WinForms when what's there already works. It will take time, but I'm sure we'll see more WinForms apps coming out of Microsoft going forward.



It took no time to port Quake II to .Net so why doesn't Microsoft do it to some of their popular applications?

Here's why I wouldn't use .Net WinForms for anything but intranet development:
  • User has to download and install the framework.
  • Applications take a long time to startup.
  • .Net programs are slower than Win32.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/TechOff/20659-Why-dont-Micorsoft-use-windows-forms/a347f5fabd42430d8f459dea01143e6f#a347f5fabd42430d8f459dea01143e6f Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:23:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/TechOff/20659-Why-dont-Micorsoft-use-windows-forms/a347f5fabd42430d8f459dea01143e6f#a347f5fabd42430d8f459dea01143e6f ThomasAesir 17 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Chat with the IE team TOMORROW (Thursday 8th) Hi DMassy,

At the moment Web developers are forced to create hacks in order to accommodate  multiple Web browsers.  Writing hacks takes time and time costs money. That's why Web developers advocate standards so vigorously. Not because we're ideological  but simply because it's so inefficient to have to code for multiple browsers.

You say that Microsoft has been criticized, in the past, for breaking backwards compatibility but do you really think that Microsoft would be criticized trying to adopt the W3C standards?

Thomas

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Sampy wrote:

As the writer of a deployment blog whose freetime is slowly increasing, would you be more interested in MSI information, VS Setup projects, or more forward looking info about ClickOnce and what we've got up our sleeve for Whidbey. I'm most knowledgable about the latter but I can put together some information from my team (who worked on VS Setup projects in 2002/2003) if you have MSI queries.


I'm really interested ClickOnce and how it deals with security  settings. I'm planning on creating C# game that uses managed direct3d. However even though its managed direct3d it is still treated, security wise, as unmanaged code.

I love how ClickOnce is able to recognise the app version and download a new version when available. I'd like to know more about this and how it might be used to only download certain sections of an application when they are needed. For instance, you might want the client to only download Level 2 after he has completed Level 1.

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Hmmm interesting.  This is exactly the kind of stuff I want to see.

I guess If I could see some comercial .Net shareware projects out there I would have flip-flop my position on .Net.

Does anyone know of any successful comercial shareware applications?

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People are always making fun of Clippy yet he was just trying to be helpful. I guess it's true, no good deed goes unpunished.

Poor Clippy .......... That's it I'm starting a Website to partician  Mircosoft to return Clippy. After that I'm going to start an open source project to bring Clippy to Linux.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5598-Microsoft-Bob-longhorn-update/0d14b3b8764b41f88b0f9dea0118f96e#0d14b3b8764b41f88b0f9dea0118f96e Tue, 04 May 2004 14:13:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5598-Microsoft-Bob-longhorn-update/0d14b3b8764b41f88b0f9dea0118f96e#0d14b3b8764b41f88b0f9dea0118f96e ThomasAesir 7 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - a video i'd like to see I'd like to see some technical discussions (video tutorials) on C#, .net deployment models, database connections and asp.net. I reamember seeing a .Net Show video that touched a bit deployment models but I wanted them to get more into the nitty gritty.

The videos in general should be longer. At least 12 minutes each with a download option (I hate ................ streaming ...............videos).

I think that developers would really appreciate tutorials, I would Smiley

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5583-a-video-id-like-to-see/35ac46fd8f1747fbb02b9dea0118e028#35ac46fd8f1747fbb02b9dea0118e028 Tue, 04 May 2004 13:57:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5583-a-video-id-like-to-see/35ac46fd8f1747fbb02b9dea0118e028#35ac46fd8f1747fbb02b9dea0118e028 ThomasAesir 8 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - .Not for shareware If i'm not mistaken, it will be included in the future versions of Windows.

Longhorn is due in 2006/2007, that's in the future alright. I don't know about you but I wish MS would stuff the SP2 and the .Net Framework into XP and call it Windows XP version 2.0

.NET also runs on Win2k/98/Me/NT.

Is .Net a smooth install on Win98? I did install it on 98 years ago (Framework 1.0) but I don't think it was a smooth install. I could be because I was installing the SDK and the client. The 1.1 Framework client might be smooth install.

Tell those user that .NET is what makes sure that Windows app work secuerly and smooth.

That's a bad argument they might counter with "but I use Photoshop which is Win32, isn't that secure and/or smooth? Are Adobe building insecure applications?". Besides people decide themselves whether or not to trust a company and download their application.

And that it's the future for windows apps, and possibly also some *nix apps (mono).

Will Mono be able to handel WinForms? GDI+?

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5585-Not-for-shareware/1bcdcf056dc04bb885059dea0118f6da#1bcdcf056dc04bb885059dea0118f6da Tue, 04 May 2004 13:25:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5585-Not-for-shareware/1bcdcf056dc04bb885059dea0118f6da#1bcdcf056dc04bb885059dea0118f6da ThomasAesir 11 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - .Not for shareware There are several companies taking advantage of the .Net framework.

What companies? 

Are there any shareware companies that you know of that use the .Net framework in their products (non-developer products that is)?

I'm glad to hear about point 4.  I hope that C# Builder has the same features for it's installer, anybody know?

And honestly in this day and age a 20meg download isn't that big for something that will provide you access to so much.

It's a big ask, especially since your competing against Win32 programs that don't ask the customer to jump through hoops. Like I said Microsoft could easly change this by releasing some cool .Net apps like free games or what-not which would entice people to install the framework.


By the way I do use the framework at work to connect to my Access database and to interact with a PDF conversion program I use but I don't have VS.Net. I use Notepad and SharpDevelop.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5585-Not-for-shareware/7adc14691e7e4192b81a9dea0118f6ad#7adc14691e7e4192b81a9dea0118f6ad Tue, 04 May 2004 12:47:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/5585-Not-for-shareware/7adc14691e7e4192b81a9dea0118f6ad#7adc14691e7e4192b81a9dea0118f6ad ThomasAesir 11 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ThomasAesir/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - .Not for shareware Hi,

Long time lurker first time poster.

Firstly let me say thanks to the Channel 9 crew and MS for providing this great website. I love the whole philosophy behind it. Now to the topic at hand:

.Not for shareware
The .Net framework is a great  technology. It gives developers the ability to create complex programs more quickly and easily than previous technologies. It protects the users from malicious code and best of all its free.  So with all these benefits why aren't shareware developers going .Net crazy?

They should be, but for all the benifits .Net has it is still not a good option for shareware developers and here's why;

Point 1
 Shareware developers are not going to ask potential clients to download and install a 20 mb  framework just to run their application they are trying to sell. This is what MS is supposed to do if it wants to see the framework on home user machines. MS could easily do this by simply developing some cool free .Net games and killer .Net apps.

Point 2
Win32 applications will run on Win95 to Longhorn while .Net is really only meant for XP to Longhorn.

Point 3
It's easier to decompile .Net apps than Win32 apps (so I've heard anyway).

Point 4
Deployment. Even if the framework were more widespread deployed what happens if a non-framework user tries run your .Net application? Are there any Installers that auto-magicly detect the missing framework?

Point 5
What is this .Net thing anyway?
They're the types of questions you'll get if you try to force users to install the framework. Shareware authors don't want to answer these types of question and it doesn't help either that MS tried to market .Net as everything and the kitchen sink. How dumb was that whole affair?

Being a shareware developer I'd like to be able to use .Net. I like the technology but the points I raised are stopping me from going full steam ahead with .Net. What are your thoughts on this? Are there any shareware authors here or is everyone doing ASP or intranets?

 I'd love to hear some MS representatives comments on this.

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