Channel 9 - Discussions by Tonatiúh http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 - Discussions by Tonatiúh http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Tonatiúh/Discussions Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Tonatiúh/Discussions en Sun, 26 May 2013 07:05:24 GMT Sun, 26 May 2013 07:05:24 GMT Rev9 0 0 0 Coffeehouse - Why do some people not like .Net framework.
jsampsonPC wrote:
Non-developers are probably ignorant of its power. That's all I can think of. And then again, there are people like my wife who think that if there are more than 10 shortcuts on your desktop, your "computer is cluttered and runs really really slow."


Hello to all of you Niners... So long for me to be here again... And to bother you with my old, old opinions...

I agree with Sampson from the moment such is the same thinking way of my ex-wife (but still my best friend); but... Isn't this revealing that we, the wise developers need to put a great attention and effort on teaching non-developer (read non-wise) people to understand, at least, what are the factors that make a PC slow down?

Tonatiúh

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Tonatiúh Smiley

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SlackmasterK wrote:
[...] At a church collection, there are many people who give to the plate.  Let us focus on two of them.  The first, a wealthy businessman, cuts a generous check for thousands, millions, perhaps billions of dollars.   The second, but a pauper, still struggling to feed her own family, gives the last penny she has - which she was fortunate enough to find on the floor.  Who gave more?


Who of those two? I can't say... But I can assert with utter certainty that those whom have stood judging who of the two gave more, have given nothing.

Tonatiúh

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LaBomba wrote:
Business is business... [...]


And war is war, hate is hate and so on... Those are the wrongest and most misleading axiomatic assertions one could ear... But misleaded people certainly are able to be gentle also... If they really want a better world for their children... First of all, taking care of the language used.

Tonatiúh

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JChung2006 wrote:
Tonatiúh, the Don Quixote of C9, seeing knights where there be programmers and giants where there be windmills.


Thank you Chung, but certainly I'm not, by any measures, any thing near to the Cervante's character... Even though, I have kept my self loving the image of any gentle knight, real or fictional, I had notice of... I think that gentleness is one of the most great virtues for a man feel proud of... My mother used to say us when at fight between the brothers (we where 4 girls and 4 boys): "Gentleness don't steals any  bravery of your heart".... Poor of my mam, she was truly tired of having started seen falling bombs over his head when she was 10 years old... My primary and secondary school time was difficult to endure, not because the studying efforts, but because yet at the 60's, here in Mexico there where a lot of resentement targeted to Spanish people.

I agree with Microsoft in that, as intellectual property creators, they have to protect such assets, aside than in behalf its clients and stockholders, even standing before us the developers, whom certainly couldn't be enabled to grow and enjoy as developers, without the Microsoft's endeavor in easing the attainability of "One computer for every home and every office" throughout the world... That world which is becoming more and more wide for every child been born today.

May only plea, is: "Be gentle"... As those knights whom deserve such a title not because they are willingly to raise promptly their swords... But because they keep their heart aware of the scent of a flower, the innocence in the children eyes, the hope in a woman smile... And the dreams in the professionist mind.

Please Microsoft, be gentle when defending your selves.

Tonatiúh

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I know, as well, that at my 60 years my interests have spreaded departing quite a lot from that whose makes of technology the ones life... Nowadays I'm mostly interested in the world my grand-grand-children and their mates throughout the Earth would see and live in... I am intersted in that shining rainbow at the end of the road ahead, which from the beginning have been, is and will be a gift for every past, actual and future human being.

Please Microsoft, keep your selves been the knights I dreamed you ever have been.

Tonatiúh

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Congratulations Leigh Sword for getting intersted in expressing your thoughts in freedom... I encourage you to attempt to make some collaboration of your own to Wikipedia... Besides I'm not any kind of English language expert, and my own reading/writting skills have a lot of weakern spots, I consider your English are getting better each day... Keep on your goal young Lady.

Tonatiúh

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Tonatiúh

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Congratulations Jamie!

For a man as old as I am, A place without Christmas adornement, even at Christmas time, can't be felt as inside the proper time...

I feel happy now... I hope all of you feel the same way.

Tonatiúh

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ScanIAm wrote:
W3bbo eats babies...and puppies...but he doesn't bash newbies. 



I cannot remember having W3bbo ever over my back, even when I was a newbie... Perhaps old flesh is not at any time for the taste of a babies and puppies eater... Could it be so? Wink

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Well... The first thing I ever do when re-designing an existing image, is to ask to my client, or to my self if it is for a proposal of my own, the following four questions, made in the order shown:

1) Whose are the concepts you want to "tell" about the Company or brand?

2) Whose are the graphical appreciation skills already developed by the mean of the targeted public intended to interpret such "iconic" language?

3) Whose are the state-of-the-art trends in graphical design?

4) Whose are the thecniques I have available to develop my solution and whose are the publishing thecnologies will be used to carry the imagery?

Makes this any sense to a nowadays smart and insightful Graphic Designer as the one you are Jamie? Smiley

Tonatiúh

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blowdart wrote:
Sabot wrote:
Personally I think the C9 guy is a bit young to be hanging around with ladies.


And other people are too old Big Smile

[...]


Hey, hey Blowdart!... I still hang around with ladies Expressionless

Tonatiúh

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CannotResolveSymbol wrote:
Ninny:  fool; idiot; simpleton; dunce.

Maybe what you meant was "Niney"?


Ought to be as you say friend... Beg you pardon as I was only playing with a language alien to my tongue Sad

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Commenter Samuel R. Stoup wrote:
[...] But if it manages to survive without being assimilated by other business units, it still faces the dangerous path of being “too” successful. Right now Singularity is being created by a small team of about 50 people. Due to its size and relative obscurity the programmers are fairly free to do what they want in the manner they feel to be best. But all that will change if Ballmer suddenly decides Singularity will be his new pet project. Overnight the leaders of this “research project” could find that their staff has just increased to 3,000 strong (in true MS style bureaucracy 2,000 of which are managers). Suddenly with 18 layers of management and 93 required meetings each week, Singularity becomes too heavily managed to complete any real work and eventually loses all of its innovative aspects.  [...]


Certainly this man who also barks as a dog, have ever learned any thing out of the hierachichal organizational tree top-down schemes (mostly borrowed from the military), lack of knowledge understandable for people about my age, but: How old is he? ... Particularly he is unaware of how an umbrella works.... That is to say: He ignores every thing about horizontal organizational structures, whose aren't built over "authorithy layers" but out of the networkings of strongly and tightly interrelated client<-->provider chains, where peer-to peer (human) communication by word-of-mouth not by signed documents is essential.

Tonatiúh

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Sven Groot wrote:
Tom Servo wrote: The comment section isn't any less hilarious.

You're right, I like this one particularly:
"Singularity = OS X

The only difference is that Apple is using UNIX, a base already created by someone else.
And M$ want to make a ‘UNIX’ of their own."

Anyone who would suggest that Singularity is even remotely like Unix really hasn't got any idea what Singularity actually is. Comparint Singularity to OSX is even more rediculous, although I sorta see where that comes from if you take the article as fact.



I think this article is every thing but hilarious... To me it gets me in pity and sorrow for those people who can't understand what Research & Development is all about... And for those who still are utterly unable to understand the core point with Singularity... That is: Reliability and every other of its features (stability, security, etc) achieved by means of SOFTWARE ISOLATING EVERY PROCESS RUNNING OVER THE KERNEL... Which is far ahead of pure managed code or any actual OS runtime approach...

But... Dogs ever bark when something misunderstood is on sight... As some guys also do.

Tonatiúh

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Tonatiúh

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/141952-My-name-is-Nine/e17ee649503f46c6b7899deb011df797#e17ee649503f46c6b7899deb011df797 Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:12:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/141952-My-name-is-Nine/e17ee649503f46c6b7899deb011df797#e17ee649503f46c6b7899deb011df797 Tonatiúh 45 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Tonatiúh/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Apple reviewers on Singularity - hilarious Sancho Panza (shouting): ¡Perros ladran Señor... Gente viene! [Dogs barking Sire... People coming!]

Don Quijote (calmly): Déjalos que ladren Sancho... Señal de que vamos pasando. [Let'em bark Sancho... That signals we are passing thru]

The question here is to ask one self: Whom is Don Qixote asking Sancho to let barking: The dogs or the incoming people?

What do you think Niners?

Tonatiúh

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jamie wrote:


      martin landau   


Now I'm connecting from my son's PC... Nice to meet you again, that feels good very deep in the heart... I think I could be here a couple of hours (upon leaving home, my son have told me: "Don't go late to the bed", as last week I was in an illness surge)...

Thank you Eagle... I know very well what are you talking about... It's hard to get hired as a formal employee here at my age, no matter how much your knowledge or experttise would be, so my last job was as attendant of a Cybercoffe and I have seen the same many times.

Thank  you for your concern and encouragement "Tester amongst the Gods", I have missed a bit the dialogue with you so I feel happy to know you read my posts.

Thank you Jamie... I know who that man to the left is, though my look have changed a lot from that picture (I must update it as soon as I could)... Nowadays I use my by long years cherised bear and long hair (both almost white)... While I am ever waiting from my dougther to came on visit, I know very well that as soon as she look me, she is going to request urgently for scisors and a comb... That look I have there, is his thoroughly done work last time she was here... A couple of days before that picture... Who is the guy to the right?

And going on the initial topic of this thread, I would love to continue on elaborating on such a subject... Could it be?

Tonatiúh

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Feliz Navidad a todos

Tascamati
Cualí shía

Tonatiúh

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jamie wrote:

haha
your funny tonatiuh...

and in regards to this thread - i just thought it was funny MS got a 10 yr old ceo - and the first thing he did as ceo was instigate free software for his school

so - whos the better ceo?

a loud chair throwing saleman

or a kid who in one day made a much larger statement



The kid of course (Sorry Bill but I'm sure you agree Wink)... His dreams are the cleanest view you can get from "The Rainbow"

Out of topic: Upon sending this reply, I logout from Channel 9, shoot down my  PC, disconect it and move... I hope I will afford to get an Internet conection again six months after now... And came again to follow bodering all of you [C]

Thank you Jamie for having gived my first welcome here... And certainly I'm taking that post of you I have quoted, as a temporal farewell.

Haha Jamie and every Niner and every Channel 9 Team guy...

Let me steal Shooby: I love all of you! [C]

Tonatiúh

EDIT: Just deleting a duplicated word.
 

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Is the following statements true?

A pretty woman => Is a joy to the eye but not to the mind.
An intelligent guy => Is a joy to the mind but not cool.
An cartoonist => Is funny and cool but not smart.

Hard is the fate of those people if any of the above is true.

Tonatiúh

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DoomBringer wrote:
Tonatiúh wrote:
DoomBringer wrote:
Tonatiúh wrote: What about simulating how the awareness work?

Tonatiúh

EDIT: How --> What changed.

What do you mean by "awareness"?  As in, a self-aware computer?


Yes Dom... I understand the English word "awareness" just as the ability of been self-aware... Althought it's very likely I misunderstand such word.

Tonatiúh

Well, I don't think I could do anything close to an AI that was self-aware in the traditional sense.  (Heck, a lot of AI is figuring out just what intelligence is).  It is perhaps the holy grail of AI, I would say.


Have you thought in how is that you are aware of your own being?... I have done such from a while a go and ended with the conclusion that my self-awareness is a "process" outside my psiche as the Greek called the soul... As far as I understand, the later is the complex whole which consists of the abilities to feel, think and will... In 1994, the Secretary of Education in Mexico, have briefly taught at the elementary school 1th grade level, that the human being has 6 senses, the five tangible known from my childhood: hearing, sight, smell, touch and equilibration; and one more: the soul, which comprises the non-tangible sense which enables human beings to feel, think and will (I have learned that from one of my grand-sons taking that grade at the time)... And I think now that the conciousness, is a kind of "monitoring process" over all those six senses.

Tonatiúh

EDITH: Verb corrected.

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geekling wrote:
Nobody wants to offend Jamie, because then they would end up in one of his comics, being made fun of.


I am sure every one of us will get a lot of fun, from any comic coming from the creativie and non harmful head and hands of Jamie, any side of the fence one stands up... An by the way, I understand that to respond a debate one need not to resort on offenses... Or must not do it?

Tonatiúh  

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DoomBringer wrote:
Tonatiúh wrote: What about simulating how the awareness work?

Tonatiúh

EDIT: How --> What changed.

What do you mean by "awareness"?  As in, a self-aware computer?


Yes Dom... I understand the English word "awareness" just as the ability of been self-aware... Althought it's very likely I misunderstand such word.

Tonatiúh

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Tonatiúh

EDIT: How --> What changed.

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