Tubusy

Great video, thanks guys; this stuff is really nice to see. Can't wait to hear the finished Vista sounds. Is Fripp working on all the vista sounds or just the startup/shutdown ones?

Manip wrote:

Famous names are good for one thing -- Saying you have a famous name

99.9% of Vista users will have no idea who created the sounds they hear, so that is totally not the point.  Fripp isn't there because of his name, but because he has a proven talent in what he does. The proof is in the pudding, and Vista sounds like it is going to sound great already.

Manip wrote:

Frankly and based in no small part on what was said in the video, you people spend WAY too much time thinking about such a absolutely minute and tiny detail that nobody REALLY cares about.

EVERYTHING is in the details, in terms of both engineering and experience. Try watching your favourite movie without a good score and dubbing, your experience of the film will be ruined. If you bought an expensive car and the doors clanked like a '79 truck you'd be mighty unhappy - however well it runs. It's a similar principal in Windows, only the sounds are something people will hear millions of times a day. Get it wrong and you soon have a lot of very annoyed users. People DO care about the quality of these things, but mostly they only care when the developers get it wrong. When they get it right, users may not notice why, but they will have a nice experience of the product.

I like many of the XP sounds, but several of them are pretty annoying. I don't want to turn them off, I need them. I don't want to have to search for a sound theme, that's inconvenient. So I look forward to a higher quality sound theme in Vista.

Intrigued wrote:

*Now, look over both paragraphs a few times and see how your eyes catch on the double-space at the end of the sentences in the double-spaced paragraph?  I believe this also gives one's mind a tad more time to consume each sentence.

That's exactly the problem. Or, at least, part of it. Think about it, you're applying the QWERTY logic to the very substance of reading - 'designing in' a flaw to slow the I/O of information. Surely we want text to flow as efficiantly and smoothly as possible, Not... Make iT h@Rder and, slower , t0; reAd? Obviously it suits the way your eyes/mind works, probably because you've just got used to it, but I'd suggest it certainly wouldn't be an approach to aspire to or standardise.

Thank you Bill! You are so right.

I LOVE this guy and I love what he has to say, I want to hear more!

reinux wrote:

And I'm a bit skeptic about speech recognition... it's nice, but I type faster than I talk. Talking to machines is pretty embarrassing.

You're right, it is embarrassing for us, but I think that will be a generational thing. People were scared of telephones before the following generation adopted them. Keyboards will always be more efficient in certain situations for certain tasks, but I really look forward to being able to control the basic functions of my PC/home by casually issuing commands... speech recognition will have its place.

reinux wrote:

In any case, I love how he believes that computers are for people to use, not just geeks. So few geeks these days bother to look at the big picture. Really refreshing to listen to people like him talk.

I think that's one of the big problems of Linux, it's developed by geeks for geeks. Sometimes I wonder if they even want regular users coming into their world. Until that issue is addressed, Linux is never going to hit the mainstream IMO.