This is an open letter to Microsoft. I'm sure that I speak for many other developers as well. I will make it as short as possible:

1. Desktop is now "legacy".
2. New Visual Studio "express" forces you to only do Metro.
3. Metro is the "future".
4. Metro "apps" ( yeah, I puke over that word too ) MUST be distributed via "Windows marketplace". ( yeah, nice Orwellian name )
5. After forcing you to use it, Microsoft TAKES 30% OF YOUR SALES. ( yeah, LOL )
6. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Windows-8-I-am-truely-worried-and-I-need-answers
7. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/
8. Very important point so I write it twice: Microsoft TAKES 30% OF YOUR SALES. "Your" PC is no longer "Yours". You MUST use Windows marketplace.

The road ahead is most clear. I'm glad I did not use any of those fancy new "MVC" stuff. Remember I told you that one ALWAYS must have an EXIT PLAN? (http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Questions-regarding-Web-pages-vs-Web-forms-vs-MVC)

Blame the marketing department, blame Ballmer, blame Sinofsky or whatever but GREAT JOB for killing your development base. THAT is for sure.

So Microsoft, I have been developing for your platform since the 1990s but I have had it with you.

Your Windows 8 Metro "sexual" dance didn't do it for me, your forced 30% cut of my sales wasn't a pleasant date offer either... no reason at all to develop for your platform anymore.

I can do my stuff in Delphi cross platform galore, I can do my stuff in Java or PHP... H*LL, I CAN DO MY STUFF IN UNITY3D... write once... run EVERYWHERE.

Forget it, you aren't worth the headache anymore.

You have one developer less.

I'm jumping ship.

Microsoft no longer sells an operating system. They sell an application for cable-TV device called "PC".

http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Windows-8-I-am-truely-worried-and-I-need-answers

The development era is dead. Time to move on. I refuse to "develop" for a cable-TV device.

The added "Hollywood" hue, a slight darkened light as if there is something wrong with the camera or it's a cloudy day makes me sick to my stomach. It's EVERYWHERE. They forgot to add the teal and orange filter on it this time.

It's their signature. As soon as you see these colors and filters, you know they got an angenda. From "blogs" to what not, it's really too easy to spot.

Oh, and don't forget the obligatory camera shake on EVERYTHING too. Like, yeah man, they are trying to be "hip" the mobile camera recording generation and all that. Hollywood, TV, commercials, Google... and YES... Channel 9 teal and orange... no exceptions.

But hey, they sure know advertising.

NOT EVERYONE ARE IN SLEEP. ( Yes, you know I'm talking to who. )

Here is a thought, they "killed" it so Apple could make a software product out of it because Apple can charge more. Microsoft gets a kick back.

I'm on Windows 7, IE 9 by the way. No add-ons. All clean.

The smiley breaks the line height.
Line 1.
Line 2. ( Broken by smiley ) -> 
Line 3.

Speaking of Apple products, I could go places with this one but maybe another thread and another day. Ha-ha

He seems to bake the article id in the start of the url but how do you make something like: http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Questions-regarding-Web-pages-vs-Web-forms-vs-MVC

I mean, I don't see any id there?

By the way, is he doing it right or wrong? The article is from 2008.

Thanks

Is it MVC? ( Just kidding. hehe ) 

I can't quote without first having to reply and then edit it. I get a lot of "We're sorry. Something has gone terribly wrong." eventhough I haven't even been active here for long.

And not to mention the teal and orange color here make me want to hang myself.

I don't know who designed this but you guys need to read this:
http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.se/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html

So anyway, the forums experience is rather unpleasent frankly. ( Really good people hanging around here though. )

ps. No, the User CSS in Edit Profile is not the answer.

My two cents.

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It strikes me as odd to hide something from the view or make it almost completely invisible to casual eye when this something has an important functionality WHILE the user is using/reading the page.

One of the important things I learned in university is to have visual feedbacks and good visual clues for users.

There was a fun book on userfriendliness, I can't remember the title for the life of me but it talked about how doors and door knobs we make would seem really puzzling and odd to an alien from outer space. All doors work differently and no clue is given from their knobs etc. Fun read.

7 hours ago, davewill wrote

WhatDoYouMean is trying to strike a balance between what is 100% known today and what is 100% not known in the future.  He/She is simply trying to pick the best fit for today while also hedging for the future.

You said it better than I could have ever done it.

It might "look nice" but it sure isn't userfriendly. I really hate that. I can't tell where in a page I stand specially when I'm reading something.

I find it an annoying trend.

Your thoughts?

Haha YES! and here is the point: We NEVER used them.

ps. When Delphi kind'a "died", we just moved to .NET. Was able to rewrite the controls very fast because they weren't some automagical control built-into Delphi.

A business must be able to dictate conditions as much as possible not be dictated conditions hence, one must be worried about lock-ins.

I'm not saying MVC is all evil, don't use it. But I think one should be a little careful. Candy is good but bad for the teeth in the long run.

Just example: From Pascal to C++ to VB to "Delphi" to C# to what not... see a pattern?

Imagine if my code was lock-in so much that I couldn't move it from Delphi to C# because Delphi would do so much invisible automagical things that there wouldn't be much visible code at all. All requests get handled automatically. That's all fine and dandy and I DO like it but from a pure business point of view, that is very bad business.

The same way we left Delphi to .NET, I'm sure in 5-10 years we'll move to something else, so the less "invisible magic", the better.

I know I can't just copy/paste code from C# to PHP but the general building of it must be a way so it's "clear" what's going on and all automations should be handled by "us" and not some weird automagical function.

For example the MVC Demo, I see a ready made "ChangePassword" function. What the heck? What business would want to use that and get locked-in?

I find the MVC demo very "un-codey". Hard to explain.

The only aspect I like is the separation but we don't really need Microsoft MVC to separate like that.