Hope too see more naiad on c9!

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now there is only one part missing..

WinRT. For. Desktop. Apps. 

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The metro multimon stuff had me the most exited about RTM, but I can't test it myself right now :/

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i dont really get how they "miss" a build numberlike that. arent those numbers "coerced" anyway? it seems inprobable that there are exactly 8888 builds (or 9200 builds) in the windows branch.. i mean did someone queue a new build by accident and fudge the 8888 build [and therefore had to queue 312 more builds]?

then again, getting the final build to exactly 8888 might not be a huge priority

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Hopefully we'll finally hear something about apps for xbox.. though i wonder if they'll get that out before the next version xbox.. it seems highly plausable that xbox will run win 8 so a xaml stack seems likely

Another thing i'd reaaaally hope we see is winRT for desktop apps [on win8].... there is no technical reason what so ever for not enabling that, and it would bring a more cohesive set of apps, better skill reusability for app developers and an easier time for people to get in to metro development..

The directX integration alone would be awsome, but the perf and access to windows apis would be awsome

one thing though, how is it "giving" stuff away at conferances when you pay like 2000 bucks for the ticket

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it might look alright if it wasnt for that cement gray..

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But adoption is slow because the finalization of the standard itself if slow. No significant webside can afford to only support one or two of the major browsers. 

I dont have anything against standards, i love 'em. Its the quibbling of the standards bodies that's the problem.clearly if browser vendors resort to custom extensions, the standards arent evolving fast enough.

i agree that we should follow the money, but i dont think microsoft google or apple are the ones controlling this as much as it is the millions of app/site developers out there. users dont care about any of this technical stuff, they dont care about standards, or what browser they use, they dont care if all the web is one native app or their os is just one big browser, they only care about their personal user experience on the device they happen to use.

Allthough it might be alot of trouble for developers to develop highly optimized native apps for all the diffrent platforms, it will only be "uneconomical" if they dont provide a better user experience by doign this than using some other method.

it will be interesting if the webstack will ever be able to provide such a method i dont think it is now though, and i think its going to take a while if it ever happens. Right now html+js has a huge competetive edge on web (its the only option actually) but once apps start breaking out of the browser this will no longer be the case. interesting times i say

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Personally i dont think native(or formfactor/platform specific i should say) apps are going away anytime soon. HOWEVER i do think that those apps could very well be written in html+js. but they will be platform specific, again as is the case in windows 8, still requring developers to develop for each platform.

Standards bodies are just to darn slow, and they always will be because of the simple fact that they are comprised of humans trying to reach an agreement.

Even if they where fast enough, browser vendors are to slow to implement the standards.. even css3/html4  is not entirly consistent, even between ff and chrome, not to mention mobile.. (input fields anyone?)

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Thats really odd, it has never shown up for me at home or at the two diffrent companies ive worked at for the past five years and i know for a fact wsus was not enabled on two of these places.. Maybe its a regional thing, Sweden still get Bing beta(!!) unless you manually go in and change the language to en-us

anywhoo, its a great feature! as long as everyone has sp1

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1 day ago, rogreen wrote

@aL_: You can open a VS 2010 project in VS 11 without having to convert it even if you don't have SP1. SP1 is required if you want to make changes in VS 11 and then open the project again in VS 2010.
I'm not sure I understand why having to manually download SP1 makes any feature useless.

well yeah... but thats not really backwards compability though is it.. The whole point is to be able to go back and forth between VS2010 and VS11.

Not having VS auto update itself nor via windows update [and i just checked again on several coworkers machines and SP1 does not show up on win update, even if external updates are enabled] makes the backwards compat useless in practice since anyone actually using vs11 will have to go around, manually convincing every other developer to manually update, a process that can take something like 30-45 minutes. That just not going to happen..

This is a great feature, its just a shame the lack of properly woking update infrastructure in vs2010 limits its use in small teams and makes it impossible to use in larger teams.

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To be more specific, it doesnt work if the vs2010 users have not installed SP1, and sadly(and inexplicably) this vs2010 sp1 is not available though windows update, even if you go through the help menu in vs and ask it to look for updates, its not found.... you have to download it manually

its so so sad that this great feature is made useless by the fact that vs2010 is not automatically updated to sp1 :/

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maybe a single .net framework is not just a pipedream

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reeeally really hope its not only for *shudder*zune*shudder* but that you also can play content from from your regular network... [nas, win7]

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i really wish anders will allow us to treat events like a normal multicast delegate properties, that way you could write extensions methods for things like rx on them

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what's especially great is the extensibility, that's something that most frameworks really dont focus on, [why whould they? why build support for competing frameworks?] But mef is part of the larger .net framework and like mvc it feel really focused on beeing the IoC 'glue'

i really hope this trend will continue in 4.5, cant wait to watch this

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People are jumping at every chance to shout that wpf is dead, silverlight is dead and pretty much any technology microsoft already released is dead. Now while i dont really belive that, alot of people do. Microsoft has a reputation of constantly inventing new things and then dropping them, regardless if thats actually true or not.

Having fewer shorter conferances where there is only time to really talk about one thing is not helping this view

About developer content at teched.. i dunno man but i rarely see threads or blog posts where someone is raving about the awsome new feature revealed at tech-ed :/ Also there is no c9 live at teched and generally much less exposure of tech-ed than say, pdc or build. Now, i dont know if people are just missing the tech-ed content or it doesnt contain enough edge-y dev stuff, but teched dosnt feel like a dev conferance to me..

Personally i thought the IT-Dev ratio was more like 95-5% but if thats not true, great! Glancing at the latest tech-ed session list, i didnt see much developer stuff though, but maybe i have to dig deeper

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Didnt pdc, winhec and mix used to be about a week each? now they're one four day conferance... why, when microsoft introduces new technologies its at the expense of other ones that you still claim is of equal relevance (wpf > silverlight > directUI/html+js) 

And before you jump me, yes, i know you say all these technologies are just as relevant and you're doing investments in them and all that, but you do not give them equal exposure, and that is what people see. the other stuff is just words. im sorry but that's the truth..

At the same time there are like a bazilion tech-eds all over the globe, what happend to "developers, developers, developers" guys.. :/

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Hell yeah i'll come to the campus, just need to trick my employer to send me to seattle

The salt thing was interesting, did you know that the components of salt, sodium and chloride, are extremely toxic by them selves but when you put them together, you get something humans need to live.. boggles the mind

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