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Scott Isaacs - MSN DHTML Foundation unveiled
Sep 22, 2005 at 5:51 AM

That's great, Scott. I too have written and finished an entire DHTML application platform with all of the resuable components you mention plus a whole host of applications.

Check it out: http://www.convea.com

The platform is called oneVision, my application built on the platform is called Intranet Suite.

I plan on launching the open platform as a kind of virtual webOS in the coming months, so anyone can signup and basically tick off the apps they want and they will appear inside of desktop environment, integrated with each other, running multiple web-apps at once.

It's pretty exciting, sadly nobody knows I exist! Maybe when I launch the Virtual Office System somebody will notice what I've been working on for so long!

Let me know what you think if you get time to take a look. I find your work inspirational :o)
Steve Ballmer - Quick chat with Microsoft's CEO
Jul 10, 2005 at 2:48 PM

BTW: War of the Worlds...great, great film. The tripods were very scary! Definitely be watching that again.

As for you...platform zealot? What's wrong with you people? If people like Microsoft and they like what they do, why do always take the time to come on boards like this and cry about it?

What's wrong with appreciating the strengths? I love Apple, I have Debian on my laptop, but I also like what MS are doing with Longhorn and the newer technologies.

All the negativity and anti-MS BS is getting tiresome. You have a picture of Jobs in your avatar, he's never given anything away for free so I'm missing your point about free software their.

If free software does continue to grow and it destroys our software industry, what then? They'll be no programmers willing to take up a career that pays nothing. Your vision of freedom doesn't work well in the society we live in, people need paying.

Orbit86 wrote:

Visual Studio is not the best development platform out there, thats why some MS devs use Eclispe. thats why Microsoft didn't write longhorn on .Net, the only reason people choose Windows(or forced) is because thats the only OS they know..I can assure you the entire windows Development community doesn't use Visual Studio.

"you don't invest in construction of your car"..
hmm thats why they sell aftermarket parts..?

ICQ..I used ICQ..just because it went downhill ..and I don't think it did doesn't make it crap..heck Win9x was crap but the user was uneducated to alternative oppurtunities..the only reason Windows is still around because the Customer isn't educated into what other OS's they are..

eventually Open Source will win, it is impossible for it to loose..it only takes one major desktop manufacture to set the market free..Dell looks liberal..heck he could wake up one day and say "#$@# MSFT!!, im selling linux,apple OS on my website" ..then HP,Gateway says "look dell is doing it, we have to stay competitive"...

"the resistence always wins"
Steve Ballmer - Quick chat with Microsoft's CEO
Jul 10, 2005 at 11:34 AM

Orbit86 wrote:

you actually think MS creates everything? LoL...the MS PR staff brainwashes everyone...what did MS actually create? ..Msn Messenager..innovation? it does the same thing as AIM,Yahoo does...the only reason that you use office,visual studio,IE is because microsoft has a direct connection with the customer..unlike other companies that don't...you ever notice why there are numerous major car companies but one dominant OS?..don't tell me its by choice....

Look, ICQ was innovative. I used to use it, it was great, but it turned into a steaming pile of confusing, messy cow-dung. For a long time I resisted MSN Messenger until it simply evolved into the superior IM client. It's just a fact. Steve was talking about the innovation they are doing with Messenger now regarding presence and integration across the whole range of Microsoft solutions. Not just simply IM.Visual Studio happens to be a fantastic development environment, there's nothing that can touch it.Why do people always draw these spurious analogies? You don't invest in the construction of your car, or learn its design to help you drive it better. You don't need to consult the developer documentation at carmarker.com to help you build better tires. A car is a car. Software is totally different.And *shock*...a car is closed development, how dare they! (I need to watch my language)'s! I'm going to watch the War of the World anyway.
Steve Ballmer - Quick chat with Microsoft's CEO
Jul 09, 2005 at 10:37 AM

Orbit86 wrote:

they don't lose because they have a monopoly...

They built that monopoly by building great software, it's a common side-effect of being very succesful.
Steve Ballmer - Quick chat with Microsoft's CEO
Jul 09, 2005 at 10:08 AM

This is why Microsoft will never lose at anything, he's a true leader- I fealt inspired from the minute he sat down. Great answers right off the cuff.

What a cool guy, a ball of energy with a passion his company.

*sniff*

I could cry, I love Microsoft! Go Steve!