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		<title>Coffeehouse - WINE lockout</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><blockquote>
<div>Cairo wrote:</div>
<div>From /. (of course!)<i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i>This reminds me of when Windows 3.0 checked specifically for whether the underlying DOS was MS-DOS, and threw an error if it wasn't.<br>
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<br>
For starters this is nothing like that.&nbsp; Also, Larry Osterman has an interesting explanation about that MSDOS issue at:<br>
<a href="http://weblogs.asp.net/larryosterman/archive/2004/08/12/213681.aspx">http://weblogs.asp.net/larryosterman/archive/2004/08/12/213681.aspx</a><br>
<br>
Long story short: Windows relied on and modified a lot of the data structures in MSDos.&nbsp; Any Dos clone would need to be a Perfect clone or Windows would fail.&nbsp; So requiring MSDos made sense.&nbsp; Their mistake was trying to hide that fact instead of being open
 about it.&nbsp; Too bad they didn't have Channel 9 back then.<br></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:36:17 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Any comments on this?</title>
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<div>Yggdrasil wrote:</div>
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<td><strong>Richard Grimes wrote:</strong> <i><br>
The framework has become Visual Basic—it's intended for users to develop applications, but not for Microsoft to create operating systems
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And that's bad, because...?</div>
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<br>
And it's not even true.&nbsp; Watching the C9 videos they always ask the developers what tools they use.&nbsp; Most of the time they say they use managed code where ever the can.<br></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:24:40 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - the mac mini</title>
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<div>matt0210 wrote:</div>
<div>The licencse you get with the OS is not restricted to the computer you bought it with, however, you only have one licence, obviously.<br>
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<p>So the original poster was still full of crap about it not being a single system license. It's just easier to break the agreement with the Mac and steal the software. This isn't a problem for&nbsp;Apple because of the small install base. If they get up out of
 the single digits, economies of scale will start to take over and they would see some benefit in an activation process. Do you really think they wouldn't do it if it was in their best ($$$) interest?<br>
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As a side note. XP isn't restricted to one system either. I've upgraded my home system 3 times now still using the same boxed version of XP Pro. I removed it from the old systems so the license is valid. I still just have it running on one system.</p></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:57:09 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Mac Mini?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Looks neat but can I order it for less $$$ without the crappy OS if I just want it for a Linux box?&nbsp; Or do I have to pay the Apple tax?<br>
<br>
</p>]]></description>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - the mac mini</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>It's really more like they are copying the Cappuccino PC.<br>
<a href="http://www.cappuccinopc.com/mocha.asp">http://www.cappuccinopc.com/mocha.asp</a><br>
<br></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:55:25 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - the mac mini</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that I have a small amount of Mac envy where slot drive optical drives are concerned.&nbsp; Why is it that you don't see ANY PCs with slot drives?&nbsp; Is it a patent issue?&nbsp; My car has one, why can't my PC?<br></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:46:40 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - the mac mini</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction was that it looks neat but it is still over priced. Instead of dropping important items like the monitor, mouse and keyboard they should have just reduced the price of the imac or even the emac.</p>
<p>People seem to like shiny things though so I'm sure it will sell. One thing apple knows how to do is market so more power to them I guess. At least they aren't forcing people to pay the Apple tax this time with the one button mouse.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:14:32 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Microsoft Security Alert, here&#39;s where to go</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I think I read that it's fixed with XP SP2 RC2 already.&nbsp; So I would suspect that a general fix isn't far off.<br>
Just&nbsp;one man's&nbsp;spin of the theory wheel though.<br></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 06:22:57 GMT</pubDate>
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