I taught web design for two years in a university setting and wasted countless hours dealing with issues around IE's lack of standards compliance. I think Microsoft needs to understand the following two things: 1. the company's insistence on going its own way, because it can, results in a measurable loss of productivity across the entire sphere of web development activities. This costs people money, real money. It costs Microsoft immense amounts of goodwill. 2. I've been in practically every coffee and tea house in Portland and everywhere I go, wherever I see new computers, I see Apple machines outnumbering windows laptops by about five to one. Come to Portland and see for yourself.