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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Can the application be packaged in a MSI, rather than a collection of binaries and assemblies.</p>
<p><br>
The MSI could be zipped up with a screen shot?</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Do MS have any plans to release the media mania Avalon demo for the May bits? </p>
<p>Its such a great demo of&nbsp;Avalon's prudential. Hoping it will convince my boss ; )
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Avalon and indigo Beta1 RC released?</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cool it works!!<br>
<br>
Is the media mania demo available for download?</p>]]></description>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Avalon not shipping with Longhorn??</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I think you might be confusing Aero and Avalon. Aero is the longhorn UI. Avalon is a new presentation stack. MS originally said Aero will be built using Avalon technology, however I find this difficult to believe now.
</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If it’s “under debate” as to how Avalon will ship, the LH UI (Aero) can’t be built using Avalon because worst case scenario Avalon won’t be there.
</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s not to say that Aero / LH won’t use Direct-X and hardware acceleration as you stated.
</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Pure speculation obviously.<br>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Avalon not shipping with Longhorn??</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Just watched interview with Chris Anderson (Avalon Architect) over on <a href="http://www.theserverside.net/">
http://www.theserverside.net/</a>, very good, if you haven’t seen it I suggest you take a look.</p>
<p>At the start of the interview Chris is reluctant to say when Avalon will ship and even if it’ll ship with longhorn.</p>
<p>Extract…</p>
<p><em>TSS - And that is scheduled to ship as part of Longhorn right?<br>
CA - That's scheduled to ship simultaneously with Longhorn and I believe right now the plan is for it to be on the disc with Longhorn.
</em></p>
<p><em>TSS - So it is not something that would come as part of the OS?<br>
CA - There is still debate as to what it exactly is. We actually just, I honestly don't know the answers to how they are going to end up with that. I do not even have to lie about it, its great. I really don't know.<br>
<br>
End Extract<br>
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<br>
One of the problems ISV’s face at the moment is shipping the .net runtime. I know MS say millions of desktops have downloaded it from windows update but this is no guarantee. IMHO I think it was a mistake not shipping the .net runtime with XP SP2.&nbsp;
</p>
<p>If MS seriously wants ISV’s like Amazon to create smart “Avalon” clients then the Avalon runtime (WinFx) needs to ship out the box with longhorn.
</p>
<p>Imagine going to Amazon in the longhorn world. Theirs a world of difference between
</p>
<p><em>1.&nbsp;Click here for “Amazon Smart Client”, requires longhorn <br>
2.&nbsp;Download / install Avalon runtime (20 MB runtime?), then click here…</em><br>
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