<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/App_Themes/default/rss.xslt"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:trackback="http://madskills.com/public/xml/rss/module/trackback/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" xmlns:evnet="http://www.mscommunities.com/rssmodule/"><channel><title>Entries for dbates</title><atom:link rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" href="http://channel9.msdn.com/niners/dbates/rss/default.aspx" /><image><url>http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png</url><title>Entries for dbates</title><link>http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/dbates/</link></image><description>Entries, comments and threads posted by dbates</description><link>http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/dbates/</link><language>en-us</language><pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 06:57:42 GMT</pubDate><lastBuildDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 06:57:42 GMT</lastBuildDate><generator>EvNet (EvNet, Version=1.0.3608.3122, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null)</generator><item><title>Media Mania for May &amp;quot;Avalon&amp;quot; May bits? bits [Media Mania for May &amp;quot;Avalon&amp;quot; May bits? bits]</title><description>&lt;P&gt;Do MS have any plans to release the media mania Avalon demo for the May bits? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Its such a great demo of&amp;nbsp;Avalon's prudential. Hoping it will convince my boss ; ) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;p&gt;in reply to &lt;a href='http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/69471-Media-Mania-for-May-quotAvalonquot-May-bits-bits/'&gt;Media Mania for May &amp;quot;Avalon&amp;quot; May bits? bits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://channel9.msdn.com/69471/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0" height="1" width="1" alt="" /&gt;</description><comments>http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/69471-Media-Mania-for-May-quotAvalonquot-May-bits-bits/</comments><link>http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/69471-Media-Mania-for-May-quotAvalonquot-May-bits-bits/</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 06:57:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/69471-Media-Mania-for-May-quotAvalonquot-May-bits-bits/</guid><evnet:views>1349</evnet:views><evnet:viewtrackingurl>http://channel9.msdn.com/69471/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0</evnet:viewtrackingurl><evnet:previewtext>&lt;P&gt;Do MS have any plans to release the media mania Avalon demo for the May bits? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Its such a great demo of&amp;nbsp;Avalon's prudential. Hoping it will convince my boss ; ) &lt;/P&gt;</evnet:previewtext><dc:creator>dbates</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/69471-Media-Mania-for-May-quotAvalonquot-May-bits-bits/RSS/</wfw:commentRss><trackback:ping>http://channel9.msdn.com/69471/Trackback.aspx</trackback:ping></item><item><title>Avalon not shipping with Longhorn?? [Avalon not shipping with Longhorn??]</title><description>&lt;P&gt;Just watched interview with Chris Anderson (Avalon Architect) over on &lt;a href="http://www.theserverside.net/"&gt;http://www.theserverside.net/&lt;/a&gt;, very good, if you haven’t seen it I suggest you take a look.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;At the start of the interview Chris is reluctant to say when Avalon will ship and even if it’ll ship with longhorn.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Extract…&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;TSS - And that is scheduled to ship as part of Longhorn right?&lt;BR&gt;CA - That's scheduled to ship simultaneously with Longhorn and I believe right now the plan is for it to be on the disc with Longhorn. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;TSS - So it is not something that would come as part of the OS?&lt;BR&gt;CA - There is still debate as to what it exactly is. We actually just, I honestly don't know the answers to how they are going to end up with that. I do not even have to lie about it, its great. I really don't know.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;End Extract&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;--------------------&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;One of the problems ISV’s face at the moment is shipping the .net runtime. I know MS say millions of desktops have downloaded it from windows update but this is no guarantee. IMHO I think it was a mistake not shipping the .net runtime with XP SP2.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If MS seriously wants ISV’s like Amazon to create smart “Avalon” clients then the Avalon runtime (WinFx) needs to ship out the box with longhorn. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Imagine going to Amazon in the longhorn world. Theirs a world of difference between &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;Click here for “Amazon Smart Client”, requires longhorn &lt;BR&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;Download / install Avalon runtime (20 MB runtime?), then click here…&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;p&gt;in reply to &lt;a href='http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/46797-Avalon-not-shipping-with-Longhorn/'&gt;Avalon not shipping with Longhorn??&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://channel9.msdn.com/46797/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0" height="1" width="1" alt="" /&gt;</description><comments>http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/46797-Avalon-not-shipping-with-Longhorn/</comments><link>http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/46797-Avalon-not-shipping-with-Longhorn/</link><pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:33:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/46797-Avalon-not-shipping-with-Longhorn/</guid><evnet:views>3206</evnet:views><evnet:viewtrackingurl>http://channel9.msdn.com/46797/WebViewBug.aspx?EVT=0</evnet:viewtrackingurl><evnet:previewtext>&lt;P&gt;Just watched interview with Chris Anderson (Avalon Architect) over on &lt;a href="http://www.theserverside.net/"&gt;http://www.theserverside.net/&lt;/a&gt;, very good, if you haven’t seen it I suggest you take a look.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;At the start of the interview Chris is reluctant to say when Avalon will ship and even if it’ll ship with longhorn.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Extract…&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;TSS - And that is scheduled to ship as part of Longhorn right?&lt;BR&gt;CA - That's scheduled to ship simultaneously with Longhorn and I believe right now the plan is for it to be on the disc with Longhorn. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;TSS - So it is not something that would come as part of the OS?&lt;BR&gt;</evnet:previewtext><dc:creator>dbates</dc:creator><slash:comments>7</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss>http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/Coffeehouse/46797-Avalon-not-shipping-with-Longhorn/RSS/</wfw:commentRss><trackback:ping>http://channel9.msdn.com/46797/Trackback.aspx</trackback:ping></item></channel></rss>