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It's amazing we even have a Staples anywhere near where I live. I've never seen a Best Buy. They'll have some more before the special price ends in January.

13 hours ago, windev wrote

@dentaku: Try Best Buy. They are definitely selling the OS and devices. And there is always the MS Stores - if there is one nearby, it is worth the trip.

If you can wait a week or so, you should see a new wave of x86/x64 touch devices hit the stores - the OEMs are releasing the rest of their models just before Thanksgiving.

Great extra information... that was going to be my next question.

I was wondering if it would disable to registration of the previous OS you're updating from. I'm glad I didn't do it with my Win7 DVD because I'm still using it. Once I get the upgrade disk I'll first try using an XP disk I don't care about. I guess I could also use my Vista disk because it's not like I'm ever going to use it again.

I actually went to Staples twice already and they didn't have any. They also only had one touchscreen Win8 machine but it was password protected so I couldn't even try it the way it was meant to be used.

@Psychlist1972: So, we know the Lenovo system is a full x86 PC running Windows 8 but how does it  run on Windows RT?

It's great to see this kind of app in Win8 running with usable latency.

That was the best one yet Laura, Dan, Clint etc. Was Golnaz there too?

I like the new setup with Paul in the little box on the left.
For some reason Paul seems to have gotten more informative now that he's doing the show remotely. Maybe it's because he has less distractions. 

Wow, 2004. It doesn't seem like it was that long ago when this great video came out.

You can also listen to him on Hanselman's podcast "This Developer's Life".
http://thisdeveloperslife.com/post/2-0-5-typo

I guess when I actually install Win8 on something I'll have to come back to this post and test it all out.

I'm sure that when Win8 officially shows up even more people are going to be using the old tools they're used to and just assume that Win8 is worse for music apps than Win7 was.

I've been reading that the regular tools for measure DPC latency don't give useful results in Win8 anymore because of changes in the OS. Getting low DPC latency is EXTREMELY important for all music making applications which always use ASIO and extremely small buffer sizes.

Are there any tools for doing this in Win8 and how can they be used to determine the cause of any bad DPC latency?

For example, I have 2 ethernet adapters on my motherboard. If I use one I get very bad performance in professional audio applications but if I use the other one everything settles down and works fine. I would have never been able to troubleshoot this if it wasn't for Dpclat.
I see that something named LatencyMon claims to support Win8 now but I'm not sure how useful it is.

iTunes and all of it's associated background process is one of the worst things you can install on a Windows machine. It's like they made the Windows version purposely bad which pretty much makes it malware.

Yup, I forgot what it was called.

9 hours ago, felix9 wrote

@dentaku: that could be Gustav: http://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/project-gustav