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  • Australian ISP wins against film studios claiming copyright infringment

    W3bbo said:
    Bryan Baldwin said:

    Uhm, Men at Work's lawsuit over the flute tune has nothing to do with child porn Tongue Out


    (unless they're doing something unspeakable with the flute?)


    I assume you're refering to the OP's topic, which is a totally different matter. MaW's copyright infringement was their responsibility, and I don't believe Australia has anything resembling a Fair Use defence.

    Actually, the MaW case is probably more relevent to the original topic than is internet filtering. Tongue Out


    It’s an example of a copyright holder defending their own copyright, and winning... perhaps a lesson for the studios to pay attention to.


    Of course, whether or not it was a sensible decision is another matter, and personally I’m really hard pressed to see the resemblance in the main flute riff and the “Kookaburra” tune I sang in kindergarten.

  • Australian ISP wins against film studios claiming copyright infringment

    W3bbo said:
    elmer said:

    The problem with state-mandated filters is how they don't really solve any problems...

    • People who are intentionally after that kind of material can get it if they really want to; using a proxy or tunnel service is not the technical challenge it used to be.
    • It runs the risk of blocking legitimate (or worse: controversial yet constitutionally/rights protected) websites. Remember the dentist?
    • The odds of 'accidentally' coming across material such as this is extremely low
    • And there are times when you get false-positives due to bugs in the system (which happened to me at least twice)

    The moment you declare you're going to censor something is when anything is at risk. I believe it's easier to say it's immoral to block any and all content than it is to step into the fray and unilaterally declare what material itself is "immoral" and what isn't.

    Yes, I agree with most of that, and I’m certainly not arguing a case for censorship or trying to be an apologist for the Govt/Conroy.


    However, many of the claims made about the proposal, and the subsequent perceptions held, are based on misinformation, and I believe that the only way you can wage an effective campaign against something, is if you know he facts and base your arguments on them.


    The only point I would make is that the proposed mandatory filters don't actually set out to make "morality" judgments, and only propose to filter "illegal" material... i.e. stuff that you would otherwise be arrested and penalised for if found in possession of.


    However, as you say, the effectiveness is so questionable, that it's hard to see how it's going to be anything more than an appeasement of the wowser groups... and it's such a slippery slope to be stepping on to, that you really have to ask if we should be going there at all.

  • Australian ISP wins against film studios claiming copyright infringment

    ManipUni said:

    ISPs should really avoid like-the-devil the role of police. As soon as they go down that path it will never end and the cost of doing so will just sink most ISPs entirely (or make the internet so expensive people cannot access it). Plus slippery slope.


    So good win...

    PS - What is up with AUS? They're like the UK (insane nanny state banning stuff) on speed. R rated games, porn (in states), "extreme porn," and various other things...



    PS - What is up with AUS? They're like the UK (insane nanny state banning stuff) on speed. R rated games, porn (in states), "extreme porn," and various other things...


    That’s not actually correct.


    The AUS internet filtering proposal has 2 levels:

    1. Illegal material – no opt-out filter
    2. Undesirable material – opt-in/out filter

    Illegal material is illegal material, plain and simple, and nobody can use “freedom of speech” arguments to counter that. E.g. Child pornography is quite simply illegal.


    Undesirable material is that which may not be appropriate for environments such as schools, libraries etc – basically adult porn, violence, etc... however, that’s an optional filter level.

    The actual filter itself is not the *REAL* problem with the proposal, but rather it is the way the black-list is maintain that has everyone concerned.


    It’s a secret list, supposedly along the “we don’t confirm or deny security procedures” line of thinking, so there is suspicion that it will be used to block material that the govt of the day considers undesirable to its own agenda, or to do deals in parliament.


    The other issue, of course, is the big question mark over how to filter torrents and the like, without bringing the net to its knees. Obviously child porn rings don't use standard sites and protocols such as http, so you are not going to gain much benefit in those areas, and it's yet to be shown that deep packet analysis can be handled at sufficiant speed with current equipment.

  • The New vs Evolving the Now

    exoteric said:

    Where did that come from? Are you talking about auto-parallelization - or else how could you continue with imperative programming? I must say I like LINQ for the compositionality and the way I can uniformly attack every problem I can think of and build up small building blocks but the same compositionality is not as easy with "purely imperative" programming - or is it?

    Are you talking about auto-parallelization


    Yes. I really don't want to know or have to care about what I can/can't do on a particular platform.


    The complier should be able to work out what is possible, and the runtime/opsys should provide the required services to make the best possible use of the hardware. Certainly, it should be able to do it a lot more accurately and reliably than I could.


    e.g. If I want to run a FOR loop, I just want it to go as fast as the platform will allow, and it should be the job of the compiler and underlying runtime/os to decide how best to implement/run it.


    Of course, all of that is much easier said than done, and it might not be possible to get ultimate performace, but asking the application programmer to make decisions on when to implement parallel code, is just not going to work for 99% of programmers.

  • The New vs Evolving the Now

    I don't understand why there should be the need to learn a new language, in order to continue doing the same thing.


    I vote just change the plumbing for existing languages and run-times... let me continue to say what to do, using my existing knowledge and code base, and let the platform decide how best to do it.

  • Australian ISP wins against film studios claiming copyright infringment

    The basic proposition that someone could be compelled to defend some else’s copyright, was always ridiculous.


    Of course, it doesn’t change the fact that copyrights are being infringed, but it’s a matter between the copyright holder and the offender, and there are already ample provisions in the law for the former to take action against the latter... gather evidence, accuse, litigate, get a judgement, have a penalty imposed.


    The studios simply wanted to get the ISP’s to act as police, judge and executioner... and thought Australia would be an easy way to set a precedence.


    They *REALLY* want this, and will almost certainly appeal to the high court, but I reckon they have 2 chances of winning... none and bugger-all.

  • VS2010 UI lag?

    figuerres said:
    W3bbo said:

    well i would also say that VS 2008 is *WAY* more complex than VS6 was/is

    while it's true that our systems have gotten a *LOT* faster the VS app / platform has grown at the same time.

    when VS6 came out what was the common CPU and ram of the day?

    lets get a machine that is close to the spec for that time and run VS6 on that hardware and then compare the two.


    not that i don't want to have them make VS2010 as fast as it can possibly be... just that i think we need to put it in perspective.

    when VS6 came out what was the common CPU and ram of the day?


    As I recall, state of the art when VB6 was released, was the PII, and I also seem to recall that VB6 on my PII desktop was an absolute pig to use.


    My memory of using VB6, was that to do anything halfway useful, I needed to dive into the Win32-API, and that was like dancing in a minefield.

  • Raymond's thread went missing

    Charles said:
    raymond said:

    You post a lot of stuff that has little to do with computing, even quantum-tangentially.... With so much spam on the site these days, mods are understandably becoming trigger happy. Please try and start conversations once and a while instead of just linking to random youtube videos. OK?



    I still say that the forum needs a rating function for post/threads, so the community can deal with that type of stuff... and just vote those threads into oblivion.

  • Future Shock (iPad)

    Bass said:
    CannotResolveSymbol said:

    Probably why Apple picked iPhone OS over Mac OS X on this device. iPhone OS was designed around being used on what is essentially a tablet, while OS X apps tend to be designed with a keyboard/mouse in mind.

    Probably why Apple picked iPhone OS over Mac OS X on this device.


    I doubt it.


    I suspect it's more likely to do with locking the source of applications/media to Apple's stores.


    The next step will be for Apple to try and control e-books to the same degree they do music... but to make it work, first you need a closed platform.


    It seems to me that this is also why you won't see flash on these devices - too easy to circumvent the need for the app/media stores.


    Without a doubt, the "coolest" tablet... but admitedly a bit awkward for reading e-books while laying on the sofa.