6 hours ago, BitFlipper wrote
I didn't mention anything about layout at all.
Which is why I don't understand the need to make drastic changes to the desktop.
It is annoying to know that the reason I have to fight with window borders that blend together is because MS is trying to force ...
...I said if only that was the problem instead of the desktop being fubar'ed.
Maybe I'm misreading you, but that sounds like you think the changes to the desktop are more than simply entirely cosmetic. If you were calling the Windows 8 desktop "ugly", then sure, I'd concede it's different to Windows7. But you're not - you're calling it fubar'ed, that you struggle to find window borders and that the changes to the desktop are drastic.
Which they aren't. Because Window borders are the same width, buttons are the same size and in the same place, and although window borders are blue (by default) instead of entirely transparent, if anything that makes it easier to find the buttons and window edges, because at least now they're opaque.
No, it wasn't a problem in Windows 7 and has everything to do with the flat theme in Windows 8. I thought it was pretty clear with the following statement I made:
You are conflating Metro with anti-skeumorphism. Metro does not exist on the desktop. That's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact: just go and ask anyone who actually worked on building Windows8 and they'll tell you straight.
The desktop skin is now anti-skeumorphic, and Metro was designed to be anti-skeumorphic, but then so is iOS7, and Windows Phone, and about 90% of new Web projects right now.
Instead of going on a diatribe about how "Metro is killing the desktop" (which is just objectively wrong, hence Sven and others calling you out on it) you could have just said you didn't like the flattening of buttons on the desktop and it would have short-circuited the entire discussion.
Obviously we would just have to agree to disagree on this. None of us are going to change anyone else's mind, so this discussion is pointless. My experience with Windows 8 is that I hate it, even after trying for a long time to like it. Your experience might be that you like it. I guess we would have to wait and see how this plays out.
We're not going to disagree for the simple fact that I just don't have an opinion on the matter. I don't care. I really don't. And I find it strange that other people do care enough to "hate" the window chrome.
I'm not arguing against you because I want to persuade you of some other point of view. I'm just pointing out logical errors in your argument. Whilst it's always fun to assume that Microsoft employees are evil joy-sucking vampires who want to feed our children to the lizardmen who run the NSA, the reality is that Microsoft is made up of real people who try their best to make good products, and sometimes they make bad decisions. That's life. Deal with it. Maybe they'll fix it in future? Maybe they'll go bust and people will beat the developers who made Metro with sticks and sell their children into slavery to pay back the enormous bankrupcy settlement as the world shouts "we love linux" in a single unanimous voice.
But in the meantime, if you care that much about the chrome, just pony up $5 for stardock. That's what capitalism is for, and unless your time is free, it'll be cheaper than replying to this comment.