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	<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 14:06:57 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Democrat and Republican lambasted Apple for working the system in a way they said was unfair, if not unpatriotic.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Democrat-and-Republican-lambasted-Apple-for-working-the-system-in-a-way-they-said-was-unfair-if-not-/9546e88c59414a1c88a8a1c50176c7a8">4 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/elmer">elmer</a> wrote</p><p>When lawmakers get it wrong they resort to 'morals' and 'ethics' as excuses, rather than simply fixing the law.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>How do you &quot;fix the law&quot; of companies being multinational and shuffling all of their money through foreign bank accounts in order to prevent your national government from seeing where the money goes to avoid paying taxes?</p><p>It can't be done.</p><p>Companies either need to be taxed on revenue, or CFOs need to be put in jail for deliberately evading taxes.</p><p>To be clear: This is not companies being &quot;tax efficient&quot; and going from 20% to 18% tax globally by grouping sales across divisions or something reasonable.</p><p>This is companies offshoring profits by fabricating business lines so that profit that is actually made in the US or UK &quot;appears&quot; on the books to be made in offshore tax havens (by selling fake products from the tax havens to the onshore companies, such as extortionate coffee-beans, or &quot;brand licences&quot;) in order to move their profits out of the reach of on-shore governments.</p><p>I take a simple approach to this: It's immoral, it's completely opposed to the concept of taxation that our democratically elected leaders intended, what the treasury wants, and what the people of our countries think is reasonable; it's based on deliberate evasiveness and semi-fraudulent action by constructing&nbsp;fictitious&nbsp;sales between group companies to off-shore profits. And the people that lose are the entrepreneurs and small-businesses who aren't big enough to off-shore their profits or pay off lawmakers.</p><p>This is corruption. This is not good business practice. It's bad for the economy. It's bad for society. It's bad for <em>capitalism</em>. And we need to put people who lie to the IRS into jail, because it's not fair on the rest of us who live by the rules of society that those mega-corporations at the top opt-out of paying tax.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 22:52:00 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - 24 hours to Xbox 3</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Also: Not compatible with 360 games or Xbox Live Arcade:</p><p><a href="http://thenextweb.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-wont-be-backwards-compatible-with-xbox-360-discs-or-support-transfers-of-xbla-titles/">http://thenextweb.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-wont-be-backwards-compatible-with-xbox-360-discs-or-support-transfers-of-xbla-titles/</a></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 19:05:42 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Democrat and Republican lambasted Apple for working the system in a way they said was unfair, if not unpatriotic.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Democrat-and-Republican-lambasted-Apple-for-working-the-system-in-a-way-they-said-was-unfair-if-not-/b0f60b8b0f234da19374a1c501368261">3 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/dahat">dahat</a> wrote</p><p><span>Unrelated, you have routinely offended my sensibilities on this site, I demand that you be hauled before a jury to answer for your 'crimes'.</span></p><p><span></p></div></blockquote></span><p></p><p><span>If the US government wishes me to stand trial for anything it so chooses me to stand trial for, I will be arrested and compelled to attend court.</span></p><p><span>For example: If I choose to pay 0.0005% income tax this year, I expect by the end of the year I will be wearing a particularly fetching orange jumpsuit in one of the US government's many fine custodial establishments.</span></p><p><span>Claiming that all of your Starbucks establishments aren't making any profits (and hence don't need to pay any taxes) when what's&nbsp;<strong><em>actually</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>going on is that you're making sh1ttons of profits, opening several stores a week, reporting to your shareholders how well you're doing, but are cleverly selling your UK/US companies coffeebeans from an office in Switzerland at $20 a bean to trick the tax man isn't valid tax accounting.</span></p><p><span>You think I could get away with saying to the US government &quot;Oh, I didn't earn any money this year. I was paid in magical rent vouchers which I exchange with my landlord who is paid by my company through some opaque bank account in the Cayman Islands in some clever deal to avoid me having to pay tax on the rent that I would otherwise need to pay&quot; that that would wash with the US government? Of course not. That would be &quot;go to jail&quot;&nbsp;time for me for tax evasion.<br></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span>If you're a company, you should pay taxes on your profits - the tax system is actually <em>quite specific</em> on this. Pretending that you didn't make profits in this country when you clearly did by doing opaque accounting&nbsp;<span><strong><em>isn't</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>optimising your taxes, or making use of tax schemes that government put there to encourage other parts of the economy. It's deceptive, it's fraudulent, and it requires straightforwardly misleading the tax authorities about how your business is structured for the sole purpose of avoiding tax.&nbsp;It's tax evasion, not tax avoidance. And it's legal only because it's hard to prosecute, not because it's what the lawmakers think is reasonable. And CFOs that take part in this sorry game should be spending time behind bars.</span></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span><span>The reason this pisses me off isn't because I want to punish big companies, or think they're evil. It's that I think it's not fair for small businesses and entrepreneurs to have to pay tax at full rate (or go to jail) whilst working opposite a multinational that can't be bothered to pay tax.</span></span></p><p><span><span>We should be&nbsp;<span><em>encouraging</em><em>&nbsp;</em>small businesses. Not giving them a 20% tax penalty compared with their multinational competitors. It's criminal that we allow this to continue.</span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 18:55:48 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Democrat and Republican lambasted Apple for working the system in a way they said was unfair, if not unpatriotic.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Democrat-and-Republican-lambasted-Apple-for-working-the-system-in-a-way-they-said-was-unfair-if-not-/c8dd4393fccf44b9ac84a1c5012f4f32">8 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/wkempf">wkempf</a> wrote</p><p>Define reasonable? It's already been decided it's legal and not tax evasion, and doing something illegal.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>I define it the same way that the legal profession does. Put it to a jury. Let them decide whether the tax-return is a valid representation of the company's tax affairs, or whether they are fabricated financial structures designed to avoid the paying of taxes that parliament and the treasury intended and expect companies to pay.</p><p>If we decide whether someone goes to jail by presenting the jury with evidence and them deciding if a law was broken, why can't we do the same with CFOs and blatantly tax-evading tax returns?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 18:35:32 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - 24 hours to Xbox 3</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/24-hours-to-Xbox-3/36911af559f841fa9879a1c50129d33e">14 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/Bas">Bas</a> wrote</p><p>Absolutely <em>nobody</em> will be genuinely confused by any of this.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Oh look! There are nine different Xbox Ones on sale on Ebay:</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Game-Consoles-/139971/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=xbox&#43;one">http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Game-Consoles-/139971/i.html?_from=R40&amp;_nkw=xbox&#43;one</a></p><p>Oh wait. No. Those are Xbox1s, not Xbox Ones.</p><p>Congratulations Microsoft. This company literally couldn't market their way out of a paper bag.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 18:20:43 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Democrat and Republican lambasted Apple for working the system in a way they said was unfair, if not unpatriotic.</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I don't have a big issue with accountants turning your 23% corporation tax into 20% corporation tax by being clever and tax efficient. That's part of the game, and whatever.</p><p>I&nbsp;<strong><em>do</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>have a problem with companies turning their 23% corporation tax into 0.005% corporation tax by blatantly off-shoring all of their profits in ways that the tax system was clearly not designed to deal with.</p><p>How can we encourage entrepreneurs to start companies when you have to pay taxes if you're small, but big companies can undercut little ones not just with economies of scale, but by choosing to not pay taxes at all? It's completely anti-competitive, and it's bad for society and the economy.</p><p>Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and Google's CFOs should really all have to defend in front of a jury of their peers why they think paying taxes is optional. And if they can't defend why the accounts&nbsp;<em>they&nbsp;signed off&nbsp;</em>is reasonable, legal, and not tax evasion, those CFOs should really be put in a jumpsuit and put behind bars.</p><p>Little company's directors go to jail when the little company doesn't pay tax. And you don't have to send many CFOs of major companies to jail before they all start filing proper tax returns.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 18:02:40 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - 24 hours to Xbox 3</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Eugh. Xbox One. Which idiot in Microsoft&nbsp;Marketing&nbsp;came up with that?</p><p>The Xbox series is now:</p><p>Xbox1 --&gt; Xbox 360 --&gt; Xbox One.</p><p>Hence managing to simulteniously confuse users between this product:</p><p><img src="http://www.ps3hax.net/picture.php?albumid=10&amp;pictureid=1224" alt=""></p><p>and this one:</p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Xbox_One_Logo.jpg" alt=""></p><p>And also confusing users who think that numbers that are bigger are better, since Xbox One &gt; Xbox 360 (&gt; Xbox 1).</p><p>Wow. Short of calling it &quot;PlayStation&nbsp;2&quot;, I fail to see how they could have sucked so hard at naming this thing.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 17:48:30 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - “Why Windows is slower” - a &#39;rant&#39; from within WinDiv</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/c0daca35e24945e0b369a1c200e17138">3 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/Bass">Bass</a> wrote</p><p>This Microsoft development model you keep describing sounds pretty political and bureaucratic.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Not really. It's the same with any company. If you're StartupCo it's the same too. You can't make your product do everything, so you have to decide what features are the most important. Of the 100 features you want StartupCo's product to do, you can only do 10 of them really solidly before you launch the product in two months' time. That's not to say you don't want to do the other 90. It's just that you'll do the other 90&nbsp;<strong><em>later</em>.</strong></p><p>If you get feedback from 1000 customers about features they want, you have to&nbsp;prioritize. Some of those suggestions knock back features you were going to implement (at the end of the day, your product is for customers), but sometimes customers ask for ideas that are a lot of effort to implement, and the benefit is low compared to spending your development effort on something else. For example, having your website auto-branded to their company is something that's less important than getting the core features of the product out of the door. Making your website work on IE6 is less important than getting it to work on Google Chrome and IE10. It's common sense really.</p><p>Similarly if you want your idea to be implemented in StartupCo's core product, write them an email telling them about why your idea is good. Don't write them an email about how StartupCo is rubbish and you hate their product. It's common sense.</p><p>If you write feature requests written in toxic language, you won't get people to listen to you. Why should I care about your ideas if you're going to be rude about StartupCo and the employees and the hard work they put into the product? Screw you, find a different product.</p><p>Requests that are framed in positive language&nbsp;<strong><em>always</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>do better than ones framed in negative. And being polite and respectful&nbsp;<strong><em>never</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>hurt your chances of getting your feature into a product - at Microsoft or anywhere else.&nbsp;Some of our contributors on C9 would do well to learn that if they want anyone to ever take their ideas seriously.&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 17:15:23 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - “Why Windows is slower” - a &#39;rant&#39; from within WinDiv</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/62df886a0ba94dec8bd7a1c100f579c4">4 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio">DeathBy​VisualStudio</a> wrote</p><p><span>And where do those constraints come from?&nbsp;Executive&nbsp;decision.</span></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>They come from the fact that feature requests grow to fill the number of staff available. If Microsoft doubled the number of engineers in every team, PMs would&nbsp;<em>still</em> have to decide which features not to ship.</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>I don't know about you but when we're trying to figure out where Microsoft is going I think you have to look at what they've done in the past (especially now that they've curtailed sharing anything other than a curated vision of the future). That means we'll continue to talk about the death of SL in the same breath that we talk about what is to come. Maybe I'm just out of my mind to think this was a place to discuss the future of Microsoft's technologies...</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Sad as it may be, Silverlight is not the future of Microsoft's technologies.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:03:48 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/iLife-cowers-in-fear/0534050e76dc4da09e68a1c100a12bb1">14 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/wastingtimewithforums">wastingtime​withforums</a> wrote</p><p>Yes, I am aware that you can install third party (paid) software on Windows. Thanks.</p><p>Are you claiming that included&nbsp;software doesn't add value?&nbsp;Was the Live Essentials suite pointless?</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>You can also install third party (free) software on Windows.</p><p>And, yes, also you can install <em><strong>first</strong></em> party (free) software on Windows.</p><p>Also, Windows Live Essentials didn't ship with Windows either (<a href="http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-live/essentials">and still runs on Windows 8</a>), so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make is.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 10:04:16 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>No matter how much you might want it not to be the case, the apps that ship in-box aren't interesting. Because Blue still ships with the only app that matters, i.e. is this one:</p><p><img src="http://compass.surface.com/assets/85/ac/85ace285-31f5-4dc5-91c0-87bd51460f20.png#app-updates-med.png" alt=""></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 08:28:28 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - “Why Windows is slower” - a &#39;rant&#39; from within WinDiv</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/10700a16a3334cf9a1b3a1c1000aac9f">48 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/contextfree%60">contextfree`</a> wrote</p><p>I'm not sure I agree with this. An important part of being a PM, product planner or UX professional is being able to take feedback that might be emotional, angry, confused&nbsp;or even incoherent and make good use of it anyway. If they only paid attention to feedback from people who &quot;thought like MSFT&nbsp;executives&quot; they'd wind up tailoring their products to a pretty narrow slice of their userbase.</p><p>If anything feedback of the form &quot;I hate Windows 8 and I hate you because it installs a new facebook that&nbsp;broke my googles, bring back the old facebook with the dog!!!&quot; is likely to be taken equally seriously as some&nbsp;developer's politely worded &quot;constructive&quot; suggestion with&nbsp;an elaborate logical argument backing it up. In both cases your unhappiness will be taken seriously, your suggested solution will be ignored and your given reason will be treated as an indirect clue to the puzzle of working out the real reason for your dissatisfaction <img src="http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/content/images/emoticons/emotion-1.gif?v=c9" alt="Smiley"></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>PMs have no shortage of people with opinions on how to make the product they own better. The shortage is always in amount of staff-time available to do all of the neat things you want to do with your product.</p><p>This is why if you want to make an impact on a product team, you need to learn how to phrase your request to get into the top 10% of their list of 30 awesome ideas, so that it will be implemented.</p><p>If you wrap your gem up in a toxic blanket of anti-Microsoft venom, then a PM won't waste their time trawling through your text to see if there's a gem hidden in there. They'll just straight on to the next guy in the queue to their office to give an opinion on their product.</p><p>And you don't need to think like an executive to get the attention of PMs. You just need to think like one if you want to reverse a big decision like the lack of start menu, or the introduction of Windows Store, which are all of the decisions that DBVS wants looked at.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 01:40:26 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - “Why Windows is slower” - a &#39;rant&#39; from within WinDiv</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/6b769e1b374f44b49e07a1c10005a023">40 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio">DeathBy​VisualStudio</a> wrote</p><p>When is it ever not an executive decision? Even bug fixes fall under executive approval to some degree as they decide the budget and time constraints.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>When it's an <em><strong>engineering</strong> </em>decision. For heaven's sake, DBVS. Learn to read.</p><p>Also bugfixes are never executive decisions. Think about it this way. An executive decision is one made by someone earning $2,000,000&#43; a year and who has a personal secretary who prints off their calandar appointments for the week which are mainly&nbsp;meetings with people who manage people who manage people who write code.</p><p>If the decision doesn't impact a $10m investment deal, it doesn't even get onto the VP's&nbsp;calendar&nbsp;for a 10 minute chat. That's where <em>executive</em> decisions are made.</p><p>Executive decisions are the big, strategic decisions that make a difference to Microsoft 5 years from now. Like killing Silverlight, introducing the Ribbon, focusing on security, bundling flash with IE, making the Surface, inventing WinRT or introducing the Windows Store.</p><p>Don't waste your breath trying to persuade the developers who frequent C9 that the executive decisions are wrong. Even if they believe you, they're not silly enough to say. And even if they wanted to, they're nowhere near the grade required to reverse the strategy.</p><p>If you want, start a blog. Then you can shout and stamp your feet at the top of your voice and as hard as you can. Maybe you see if shouting louder makes the tumbleweeds roll faster.</p><p>But please, I'm pretty sure everyone in literally the entire world is bored of the discussion about start menus and Silverlight. Just, please, for heaven's sake. Just get over it. Yes. Microsoft is evil and kill puppies and are the reason Unicorns are extinct. Whatever. Just stop going on about it. The whole conversation is so far beyond tedious it's unreal. It's just you on your little soap box shouting at the top of your voice at the literally nobody that cares.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 01:19:04 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - “Why Windows is slower” - a &#39;rant&#39; from within WinDiv</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/4fd8cc45da2146e38e9ea1c0014bc875">1 hour&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio">DeathBy​VisualStudio</a> wrote</p><p>So why do you assume that when I say &quot;things move slowly&quot; that the source of the slowness and the basis of the complaint is from the diligence required to maintain a huge and critical code base?&nbsp;A lot of the slowness is from politics and the inability to turn criticism into improvements.</p><p>Yeah and we know how well those feedback buttons worked for Office, W8, and the W8 Store Apps that Microsoft produced for the initial release. Again because of politics and the inability to turn criticism into improvements these &quot;feedback&quot; buttons are pretty worthless.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>You seem to consistently confuse <strong><em>engineering</em></strong> decisions with&nbsp;<em><strong>executive</strong>&nbsp;</em>decisions.</p><p>Feedback to developer teams about crashes, distracting UX changes and features that are required by consumers of services&nbsp;<em>are&nbsp;</em>dealt with pretty quickly at Microsoft, certainly compared with other products with similarly large user-bases.</p><p>But decisions such as the Office Ribbon, losing the Start Menu, the Windows 8 Store, Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT itself&nbsp;<strong><em>aren't</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>developer decisions. They are&nbsp;<strong><em>executive&nbsp;</em></strong>decisions. Although some are&nbsp;<em>concepted&nbsp;</em>and are certainly usually&nbsp;<em>implemented&nbsp;</em>at the SDE and PM levels at Microsoft, the decisions are usually made&nbsp;<em>much&nbsp;</em>further up the chain, by GMs and VPs.</p><p>For example, the decision to go for the Ribbon in 2007 and for Office 365 were made at the top of Office. Windows Store, Windows RT and dropping the Start Menu were decisions made at the top of Windows as part of Windows <strong><em>strategy</em>.</strong>&nbsp;Not part of Windows&nbsp;<strong><em>engineering</em></strong><em>.</em><em>&nbsp;</em>The decision to drop WinPho7 support, to kill Silverlight, to drop XNA and so on - none of these are&nbsp;<strong><em>engineering</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>decisions. They are all&nbsp;<strong><em>executive</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>decisions about restructuring and reprioritizing&nbsp;DevDiv.</p><p>The reason this distinction is important is that&nbsp;<strong><em>engineering</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>decisions are agile. Yes, it's not hard to add a page; a config setting; a parameter or a flag to that function. Yes, we can expose this interface, or add this or that feature. It'll go in the pile of 30 requests, and if it's in the top 10% we'll make it before the next release of the product, otherwise it'll have to wait until later for consideration. It'll probably be usable and stable by endusers and other teams within a year, and usable by other developers within the team a month of two.</p><p>But&nbsp;<strong><em>executive</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>decisions don't work like that. These decisions are made based on market data, industry movements and shareholder feedback, not some single user's &quot;feedback&quot; on C9. You can literally scream until you are blue-in-the-face about the Start Menu, the Ribbon, WinPho8, how you think Microsoft shouldn't bother with the Surface, how you want them to Open Source Windows, how they killed Silverlight and XNA, or how you don't like Office 365.</p><p><strong>It will make no difference.</strong></p><p>Executives at Microsoft and elsewhere make big decisions, and then they go with it. You don't get to be an executive at Microsoft or anywhere else by asking your engineers to do massive upheavals and then chickening out because a couple of blogs don't like your interface but before you've actually given it to customers to have a go.</p><p>Some decisions are right, some are wrong. The decision to introduce UAC in Vista, for instance, was the right decision, although it was unpopular at the time and we can argue around the houses as to whether it was correctly implemented in the first place.</p><p>The Ribbon in Office, likewise, had its opponents screaming for heads to roll and third parties climbing over each other to skin the new office and &quot;bring your menus back&quot;. But in the end, the decision was right. People found features faster and more consistently in 2007 than in 2003.</p><p><span>I know it's a hard concept to grasp; that perhaps Steve Sinofsky didn't pop open Visual Studio and personally implement the Start Screen himself. And I know it seems impossible that a PM I reading C9 couldn't have said &quot;by goodness! DBVS is right!&quot; and file a bug to request that the start menu be returned. Or that the Silverlight team was disbanded on a whim because they got bored of writing SIlverlight, or because they all agreed amongst themselves that HTML5 was better and they should probably stop.</span></p><p><span>I hate to break it to you, but real life doesn't work like that.</span></p><p><span>The reality is that if you want to influence executives at Microsoft, you need to&nbsp;<strong><em>think</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>like one. And they aren't going to reverse a decision they made 3 years ago, committed literally hundreds of man-years to as part of a 10-year investment strategy at the whole of Microsoft just because some whiney journalists on the Internet think that the Windows Store is a bad idea. They think that <strong><em>everything</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>Microsoft does is a bad idea, and Microsoft just ignores them. Besides, they're not evaluating WinRT right now to see if they should can it. They're evaluating it to see how much further they can push it. The decision to put it into Windows Blue and Windows 8.2 isn't being made&nbsp;<span><em>now -&nbsp;</em>it was made&nbsp;<em>years ago&nbsp;</em>when they started it back as an interesting project in mid 2010.<br></span></span></p><p><span>They knew Windows Store was going to start off empty. They knew going full pelt on WinRT was going to be unpopular. Windows8 doesn't even really matter, because it's not a&nbsp;<em>product</em><span>, it's an&nbsp;<span><em>iteration</em>. It's not about taking people from Windows7 to perfection. It's about being a stepping stone from where we&nbsp;<span><em>are&nbsp;</em><span>to where we&nbsp;<span><em>want to be.&nbsp;</em></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span><span>That's the difference between executives and journalists. Journalists and users see <em>products</em>. Executives see <em>product lines</em>. And where journalists are using Windows7 to write blog posts about changes they'd like to see in Windows8, or complaining that Windows XP is going out of support or using crystal balls to try and work out what might be in Windows 8.1 - the decisions being made now aren't any longer about what to put <strong><em>in</em></strong>&nbsp;Windows 8.1, but rather what needs to slip from Windows 8.1 <strong>to</strong>&nbsp;Windows 8.2. And new ideas invented today will almost&nbsp;<span><em>certainly&nbsp;</em>not see the light of day until the Windows after that.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span>And that, DBVS, is why you utterly fail to make a dint in Microsoft's decision making. You're complaining to C9&nbsp;<strong><em>engineers</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em><span>about&nbsp;<strong><em>executive</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>decisions they don't control. And, supposing there are any executives here, you're telling&nbsp;<span><strong><em>executives</em></strong><em>&nbsp;</em>about decisions&nbsp;that happened so long ago that they're not only locked in - they've basically been completed. </span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span>You're not making any impression on them, because you're not talking about where we want to be, given that we have WinRT, and given that Silverlight is dead, and given that Office has a Ribbon. You're talking about&nbsp;<em>revering&nbsp;</em>those decisions. And so as far as anyone making those kind of decisions is concerned, you're living in the past.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span>If you want to influence <em>engineers</em>, tell them how to make their product more useful&nbsp;<em>to you,&nbsp;</em><span>and&nbsp;<em>avoid&nbsp;</em>asking for executive decisions to be reversed.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span><span>If you want to influence&nbsp;<span>executives, and hence Microsoft's entire future direction,<em>&nbsp;</em>talk about what Microsoft's role is in a world where Xbox, Windows Phone, Windows Surface and Windows have converged in 2020, and what Windows should look like&nbsp;<strong><em>then</em>.</strong>&nbsp;Talk about whether it's even possible for apps to do&nbsp;<span><em>all&nbsp;</em>of their computing in the cloud, and whether users want that. Talk about whether Xbox can be used to gain marketshare on Phones, and whether Phones and the Xbox and hell, why not your fridge and your car, might one day run something that's the same as Windows.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Constantly ranting about start menus and winrts is boring to&nbsp;<em>everyone</em>. It clearly didn't work to complain about it during the past 12 months (and that was certainly not due to a lack of complaining here on C9 by a great deal of people). </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>It time to stop complaining about where we&nbsp;<span><em>are&nbsp;</em>and start talking about&nbsp;<em>where we would like to be</em>. That's a conversation worth having; it's more positive; it's less toxic; it's more interesting and it's more likely to end up with you being able to influence Microsoft.<em>&nbsp;</em><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - “Why Windows is slower” - a &#39;rant&#39; from within WinDiv</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/b014b747a13948868470a1c0013ae4a5">15 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio">DeathBy​VisualStudio</a> wrote</p><p>It also sucks that it seems we just all so readily accept the fact that this is just life in big companies; things move slowly, politics are as important as the work, criticism is unwelcome, etc</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Wait. What? The reason things move slowly at big companies is because change is&nbsp;<em>managed </em>to make sure that products that consumers use is stable and safe. It's a big deal if you ship a version of Windows that kills all of the batch files that literally the entire US financial system run on top of, for instance, and so for every week you spend writing code to edit cmd.exe, you probably want to spend 3 weeks making sure you didn't just introduce a security vulnerability, a performance hit, an app-compat hit and that it works kinda like you said it would.</p><p>That's something startups just don't care about.</p><p>Also, I'm not sure that&nbsp;criticism&nbsp;<em>is&nbsp;</em>unwelcome at Microsoft. In fact all of the products used at Microsoft have big &quot;feedback&quot; buttons specifically inviting&nbsp;criticism (you can see it in some of the C9 videos. It's usually a button that's always visible in the top right or bottom right of every website and app that Microsoft builds).</p><p>The difference is between <em>giving&nbsp;useful, actionable feedback&nbsp;</em>versus just&nbsp;<em>being a douche-hat</em>. Maintaining a dialogue with the product team to let them know your concerns and requirements about their product is in the former category. Publishing your beefs on the Internet, or stamping your feet and saying that they are wrong about everything from NTFS to the C&#43;&#43; compiler to Powershell not being in CMD.exe is quite firmly in the latter.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/dd15453c57844253a8e5a1c0012cb47a">4 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/BrianD">BrianD</a> wrote</p><p>IDK why people are assuming it is an junior dev.&nbsp;</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Because senior devs don't write bitchy career-limiting letters on the Internet. The&nbsp;<em>only&nbsp;</em>time a senior person would&nbsp;<em>ever&nbsp;</em>write a letter like this would&nbsp;<em>perhaps&nbsp;</em>be one accompanying their letter of resignation, and even then, only if they were absolutely sure they weren't going to want a letter of commendation or to ever return there.<em><br></em></p><p>Also, the guy is complaining about stuff that shows that he doesn't really understand how software is written in big companies. Like complaining how teams don't like &quot;outsiders&quot; coming in and writing code on their turf.</p><p>Well, no poops, sherlock. Of course not. Writing code is the&nbsp;<em>fun&nbsp;</em>part of being a dev. It's maintaining it, integrating it, testing it, regression testing it and shipping it that are the hard bits that take up time. And the fact that you just came in and dumped some source code on their doorstep doesn't help.</p><p>Apart from the the fact that you might not understand the context of where the team are in terms of other priorities - maybe that check is there for AppCompat reasons, or for performance reasons, or adding code here introduces a bug over there - if they add <em>your</em>&nbsp;code then that pushes back the testing schedule, and that means deciding which of their 30 good ideas from the planning round they need to drop in order to add and maintain&nbsp;<em>your&nbsp;</em>code.</p><p>As <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/hh921911.aspx">Raymond Chen put it</a>, you ran over to the other team, ate the meat from their plate and are expecting them to finish off the vegetables.</p><p>Also, look how telling these paragraphs are:</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p>These junior developers also have a tendency to make improvements to the system by implementing brand-new features instead of improving old ones. Look at recent Microsoft releases: we don't fix old features, but accrete new ones. New features help much more at review time than improvements to old ones.</p><p>(That's literally the explanation for PowerShell. Many of us wanted to improve cmd.exe, but couldn't.)</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>How is it news that writing new code is easier than fixing old? New code uses newer code patterns, newer syntax and generally better stuff. Older code might have been written before stack overflows were an issue, the developers have all left or died of old age, and you're left with&nbsp;<em>massive&nbsp;</em>app-compat risks that new code just doesn't have.</p><p>Yes. You could have updated cmd.exe to be Powershell. But look! suddenly you've broken the&nbsp;<em>entire&nbsp;</em>enterprise market that only manages to get to the desktop through some ricketty maze of batch files and visual basic nonsense. Do you&nbsp;<em>really&nbsp;</em>want to start kicking at the foundations on which literally billions of dollars of ricketty unstable businesses are built? Any developer worth his salt knows to leave that stuff well alone.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><em>That's</em> why it's an obviously junior developer. Look. He even says so himself (in not so many words):</p><p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><span>You find SDEs and SDE IIs maintaining hugely import systems.</span></p><p><span></p></div></blockquote></span><p></p><p><span>If that doesn't scream &quot;I'm an SDE I or SDE II, and I do really important stuff&quot;, I'm not sure what does. Junior devs&nbsp;<span><em>maintain&nbsp;</em>really important systems. Senior devs&nbsp;<span><em>design and build&nbsp;</em>really important systems. All that sentence says is that the person that wrote it hasn't seen further up the tree than an SDE II.</span></span></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Why-Windows-is-slower-a-rant-from-within-WinDiv/58dc98f05f6a4624a1bda1c0010b958b">21 minutes&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/blowdart">blowdart</a> wrote</p><p>I'm more bemused it's proof of anything. Gee, it's not like anyone outside of the kernel team could produce a SHA1 hash... oh wait a minute...</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>It there to raise the bar of authenticity. It (nearly) proves that they can see the source code, or at least, that they know someone who can, and it's designed to dismiss the obvious suggestion that the post is entirely fabricated by someone with a grudge against Microsoft who's never worked there (like, say, beer28).</p><p>What it&nbsp;<em>doesn't&nbsp;</em>prove is that the person is a Microsoft FTE, or that they work in the team responsible for building and maintaining that code, or that any of the content of post is&nbsp;<em>true,</em> or that they have&nbsp;<em>current&nbsp;</em>read access to the source code etc etc etc, but then again, it wasn't designed to do that.</p><p>It's an&nbsp;intractable&nbsp;problem both&nbsp;<em>proving&nbsp;</em>that the post is genuine and&nbsp;simultaneously&nbsp;maintaining anonymity. The SHA-1 hash was just there to provide&nbsp;<em>enough</em> evidence that the poster is an MS employee to make it news-worthy and to avoid people dismissing his rant without giving away any information that might allow an internal witch hunt to find him and fire him.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 16:38:48 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Don&#39;t get Skyped!</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I saw this a couple of days ago, and had a bit of a look into it:</p><p>It's Microsoft SmartScreen. Skype sends the links that you send to your friends to SmartScreen (over HTTPS) which then automatically reaches out to the URL to see if the domain / file is likely to contain malware.</p><p>Calling that &quot;reading everything you write&quot; is just somewhat of a hyperbole.</p><p>Note that you can also turn off SmartScreen entirely if you're really worried about this. And it's not the first time someone has made ridiculous claims that<a href="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/08/windows-8-privacy-complaint-misses-the-forest-for-the-trees/"> SmartScreen is invading your privacy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 13:57:54 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - *sigh* :&#39;(</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/sigh-/3ef55f6539ad46d4aa05a1c0005bff24">7 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/Jsoh">Jsoh</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/sigh-#c1432b04105f84c1cb8fea1c0000bc219">MarkDeFalco</a>: I hope that I am misreading that. Are people building SQL command text locally and remoting the command text to the server?</p><p><span></p></div></blockquote></span><p></p><p><span>They're building the SQL string on the server, not on the client, but the SQL string is being made out of gluing bits of text passed to the server via a GET parameter.</span></p><p><span>Consequently this is a classic case of a SQL injection.</span></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 12:57:09 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Msft makes an unofficial WP YouTube app, Google says in your dreams</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Msft-makes-an-unofficial-WP-YouTube-app-Google-says-in-your-dreams/97a73fe8a051451a99e5a1bf018a2720">12 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/MasterPie">MasterPie</a> wrote</p><p>@<a href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Msft-makes-an-unofficial-WP-YouTube-app-Google-says-in-your-dreams#c4b71c98268a941f7b243a1bf018833ac">cbae</a>: Updated my post with the full quote.</p><p>The rumor has it that they wanted to&nbsp;release with a non-ad experience to show users a better youtube experience which could be compared to a crappier ad-ridden version. Take away the candy and it generates bad perception.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>Microsoft couldn't give two hoots about ads or downloads of YouTube videos. This is about making a point and forcing a conversation about Google's decision to use effective monopolies on things like YouTube to push competitors such as Windows Phone out of a market that Google has a competing product in.</p><p>Behavior&nbsp;like this caused Microsoft to lose anti-trust cases in the US in the 90s over Microsoft's bundling of Internet Explorer with Windows.</p><p>What I suspect is going to happen is that Microsoft will ignore the cease and desist to force a court case on the issue in order to encourage the US government to start an anti-trust case against Google.</p><p>This isn't about ads, or users, or downloads or YouTube. It's a big game of chess being played by lawyers, where sadly users are being treated as pawns on all sides.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 12:52:33 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Msft makes an unofficial WP YouTube app, Google says in your dreams</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like yet another fight between Google and Microsoft where the only people that win are the lawyers and the customers only lose.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 22:37:46 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Behold the power of Javascript!</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>How clippy came to be: <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/chris_pratley/archive/2004/05/05/126888.aspx">http&#58;&#47;&#47;blogs.msdn.com&#47;b&#47;chris_pratley&#47;archive&#47;2004&#47;05&#47;05&#47;126888.aspx</a></p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 20:25:52 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Recommend three improvements to Windows 8 &amp; Visual Studio</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Recommend-three-improvements-to-Windows-8/f930a47a393b4fd7aadaa1bf01360be3">1 hour&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/vesuvius">vesuvius</a> wrote</p><p><span>I would also like additional resources to added to C#/VB&nbsp; to support Machine Learning like syntax, this is a bit of a DSL but statements like</span></p><p><strong>get charactaristics</strong> to an object (taxonomic structure) returning all fields on an object</p><p><strong>is it true that</strong> x <strong>has property</strong></p><p><strong>show similarities between </strong>Person<strong> with value </strong>1<strong> and </strong>13</p><p><strong>confidence</strong>..........<strong>what about</strong> Person <strong>where</strong> musictaste = 'grime' <strong>with confidence </strong>0.5</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>So, a couple of things here.&nbsp;</p><p>Firstly C# isn't Windows, and it isn't Visual Studio. But that's by-the-by.</p><p>Secondly - can't you already do stuff like this with LINQ and/or library support?</p><p>1: obj.GetType().GetFields().Select(x =&gt; {fieldName: x.FieldName, fieldValue: x.GetValue(obj) });-</p><p>2: x is IThingWithNameField, having defined ( interface IThingWithNameField { string Name { get; }; } ) and making everything with that type implement that interface.</p><p>3. obj1.GetType().GetFields().Select(x =&gt; { lhs: x.GetValue(obj1), rhs: x.GetValue(obj2)).Where(y =&gt; Difference(y.lhs, y.rhs) &lt; threshold).</p><p>4. This one is complicated by how you're choosing to do your statistics, and could be extremely expensive to build the machine learning set if you have to do that on a whole database each time per query. This might be a better thing for a library or at a push, SQL server to provide, rather than for C#.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 20:07:42 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - Official: Windows Blue to be 8.1, free, preview on 26th June</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/Official-Windows-Blue-to-be-81-free-preview-on-26th-June/a0a66aa2e1cf4339b683a1bf0106e227">3 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/spivonious">spivonious</a> wrote</p><p>I am getting the feeling that these are all changes that had been made but kept out of the main trunk by Sinofsky. I just hope that MS doesn't backtrack too much; Windows 8 is fantastic on tablets.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>It's not. It's code they're writing now but which either wasn't finished in time for the Windows8 release, or which corrects defects and scenarios that were missed by the fact that there were only a couple of years of development between Windows7 and Windows8, and Windows8 has some fairly major changes from Windows7.</p><p>Much as some people might be expecting Windows 8.1 to be a major backpedal from Windows8, but that's really just wishful thinking. Windows 8.1 is still gonna have WinRT, still going to ship on ARM, still going to have a Windows Store, and is still going to have a start screen.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 19:07:12 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Coffeehouse - *sigh* :&#39;(</title>
		<description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><div class="quoteText"><p></p><p><a class="permalink" title="Post Permalink" href="/Forums/Coffeehouse/sigh-/50d023783e264caab820a1bf00f3446e">4 hours&nbsp;ago</a>, <a href="/Niners/blowdart">blowdart</a> wrote</p><p>*snip*</p><p>Oh if only this were true.</p><p></p></div></blockquote><p></p><p>OK. You also need to not ever use outer/innerHTML to not have XSSes - but you shouldn't be doing that anyway (if you are doing it - stop it. stop it now). If your code (and the frameworks you are using) don't ever use eval or write HTML to the DOM directly, then there is no path for attacker controlled data to be executed as a script*</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>* that's not a challenge, btw. document.createElement(&quot;script&quot;).innerText is the same as eval, but people that do that kind of thing should not be allowed near computers for fear that their stupidity might leak out via the keyboard and contaminate the Internet.</p>]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 19:02:38 GMT</pubDate>
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