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@Rowan Miller :

As Oracle now officially supports EF 4.0, I am moving toward to using EF for new projects, the presentation is very helpful introduction.

Where could I download the slides? Also, what zoom in tool you are using? I like how you are able to create a arrow after you zoom.

Thanks for the nice presentation!

Looks good. I can't wait for it.

By the way, which Lenovo notebook did you use in the demo?

9 minutes ago

Its seems like everyone reacting to HTML5/JS development in Windows 8. I think this is just 1% of the whole story. Its definitely going to support number of technologies. I'm sure you can build Windows 8 apps in many different technology, eg: Silverlight, XNA, WPF, HTML5, .NET, etc. Since HTML5 is the newly added one, they came out with it first, so worry less.

Then, just said it out loud, Microsoft!

Vote for #silverlight #wpf #xaml as a major platform to create an application in #windows8 http://bit.ly/kgF3fA

In other news, I recall the article my Mary Jo Foley about another XAML-based application model for Windows 8, http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/more-on-microsoft-jupiter-and-what-it-means-for-windows-8/8373. There is no information about it at all.

@anym:

4 minutes ago

"It's not the only story... It's a new one"...

I call BS on this. this is the reason Apple is winning. they have "ONE story"... object c. if you don't like it don't come to "idevices".

Here's one... if we all start to develop for html5 why buy windows at all???

Apple is not #winning because objective C but because of iDevices and iOS experience. They tried to promote HTML5 as well (remember Flash vs. HTML5?).

I hope Windows 8 will reverse that trend. We should not need to be panic just yet until Build Event (aka PDC) in September.

3 minutes ago, section31 wrote

To make it clear once again. We don't want freaking html/js for app developement. I'm really pissed if this is the final story.

I feel you. My heart stops every time someone from Microsoft eagerly promotes HTML5 and JavaScript.

@ryanhayes: Actually, that might be half true. We can expect Intel-based Windows 8 to run anything that run on Windows 7. However, we don't know much about ARM-based Windows 8 yet. IMHO, it is impossible to have ARM-based Windows8 run existing Windows 7 applications (natively). All new applications have to be re-created for ARM-based Windows 8.

Hopefully, .NET, Silverlight, and WPF applications can be write-once and run on both platforms.

Windows 8 is still Windows, so it should run Silverilght and XNA applications.

The questions are what need to be done to create touch-mode interface application. Silverlight still does not support Touch very well comparing to WPF and native Windows API. Hopefully, this will be changed. We should know more in September.