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Dexter said:

kurt_godel said:

*snip*

To clarify the various error message you get:

"Initialization Error...You need version 2.0.50727..." - as I already said that means the user only has .NET 1.x. It's not about .NET 2.0 vs .NET 2.0 SP1 because even SP1 has the same version number (2.0.50727).

"Could not start application error..0xC0...". - that always means no version of .NET installed.

"This application encountered an error and needs to close. Contact ...".  - that's a generic error message, it can mean anything including that your application has thrown an exception.

Thank you very much guys. This was really helpful!

About the generic error message, this occurs in a machine with 3.5 installed and we try to run the same application that works fine anywhere else, so I guess it is not a generic problem, but perhaps as you mention reference related.

One other issue that has occured is that in the application after I added two COM components (WMP, and another) my VS 2005 sometimes has really hard times. CPU goes 100% and it seems there is a bad memory leakage situation. Does anyone have a clue on that and could this be due to me having messed up .NET versions?

thanx!

figuerres said:

3.5 is an extension of 2.0 so the "base" for both is the same.

even if you have 3.5 installed if your code only targets 2.0 features then the app should run on a plain 2.0 install of .net

as others asked:  how are you distributing the app?  how do the users install it?

also you might want to look at vs 2008 as it can target 2.0 and 3.5 and will tell you wich one you are targeting in your app properties.

also they have a sp for vs 08 and .net 3.5 to make a better setup for users.

Hi guys,

I am really sorry for posting three times the same post. My browser was stuck indicating "Saving..." but nothing seemed to be moving. Is this an error in channel 9 forums or is it my fault?

To answer about the distribution method, I am not into professional distribution, and all my desktop programs were simple zip archives with the executable inside. Now my confusion has been even worse since all others that have tried to launch my applications report all of them different errors!

To get things straight, I have VS2005, as I see in Control Panel->Add/Remove s/w I have .NET Framework SP 1 & .NET CF 2.0 SP2.
From the above I assume that when I create programs, they are on .NET 2.0. Right?
So these are my scenarios and guesses:
* One has reported "Initialization Error...You need version 2.0.50727..." . As I understand from your comments this means he has 2.0 but not SP1 right?
* Another has reported the "Could not start application error..0xC0...". I guess this means he has not at all .NET in his machine.
* Another on gets an application error "This application encountered an error and needs to close. Contact ...". This user has .NET 3.5 installed. So, my app is loaded properly because it locates .NET (mscoree) but fails because it is written for 2.0

Please tell me if I am getting this right! My head is going to explode!!
Now about the deployment I cant find the deployment methods (ClickOnce) you mention. Are they present in VS 2005?

Thank you very much guys!
Again sorry for the multiple posts!

Hi guys,
thanks for the feedback.

It seems the problem is a little complicated here.
The error that is thrown in one machine is this:
".NET Framework Initialization Error
To run this application you first must install one of the following versions of the .NET Framework: v2.0.50727
Contact you application publisher for instructions about obtaining the appropriate version of the .NET Framework"

However some others have reported an error which was like "The application could not initialize properly 0xC..." I cannot recall fully the error but it was only one line and the error code started with 0xC

Sven Groot said:

If you use VS2005 your projects do target .Net 2.0. I think you're running into a different problem. What's the full error message?

Hi guys,
thanks for the feedback.

It seems the problem is a little complicated here.
The error that is thrown in one machine is this:
".NET Framework Initialization Error
To run this application you first must install one of the following versions of the .NET Framework: v2.0.50727
Contact you application publisher for instructions about obtaining the appropriate version of the .NET Framework"

However some others have reported an error which was like "The application could not initialize properly 0xC..." I cannot recall fully the error but it was only one line and the error code started with 0xC

Isn't there an easy way to ship an application in .NET and run on all Windows Desktop machines??
Perhaps ship an Installer in the setup which will take care of all appropriate actions to deal with incompatibilities.

This is really a pain when you want to create and distribute applications..

Thanks again guys for the help

Sven Groot said:

If you use VS2005 your projects do target .Net 2.0. I think you're running into a different problem. What's the full error message?

Hi guys,
thanks for the feedback.

It seems the problem is a little complicated here.
The error that is thrown in one machine is this:
".NET Framework Initialization Error
To run this application you first must install one of the following versions of the .NET Framework: v2.0.50727
Contact you application publisher for instructions about obtaining the appropriate version of the .NET Framework"

However some others have reported an error which was like "The application could not initialize properly 0xC..." I cannot recall fully the error but it was only one line and the error code started with 0xC

Isn't there an easy way to ship an application in .NET and run on all Windows Desktop machines??
Perhaps ship an Installer in the setup which will take care of all appropriate actions to deal with incompatibilities.

This is really a pain when you want to create and distribute applications..

Thanks again guys for the help

Ok, this may be a stupid question, but I am really stuck up here and I would appreciate some help.

A few months ago I installed .NET 3.5 (I think).
When I build projects for .NET with VS 2005 I am running my programs fine.
However in other machines others (with XP and not .NET 3.5) get the deadly message "Could not start application 0xC..."

Since I find disturbing having to tell anyone to download 3.5 to run my software, is there any way for me to build
my projects for .NET 2.0 ?? I have searched again and again through VS options and project properties, but with no luck!

Please help!!

s.tsiolas said:

I have checked the application and I can say that it is really amazing.  Perfect UI and the features offered are all very nice. I enjoyed most the wi-lol since i could find almost any game i was looking for. However I think  rating system here would be very helpful to users.

The only thing I mentioned is that when the internet connection speed of the mobile device is very low you cannot see the channel, instead you can only listen the audio part.  Additionaly i cannot understand how my pages works.

Great efford pal...keep walking!!!

thank you for your comments s.tsiolas

The problem with streaming...This is a sad story. Wi-Not does not stream any content but it points to web links.
About the ranking system, this is a great idea! Certainly it makes sense!

Thank you!

ZippyV said:

I put it on my HTC Touch Diamond but I didn't play much with it yet. A couple of remarks:
- Don't use flash on your home page because it doesn't load on my mobile browser (using Opera)
- When I launch the app for the first time i see a sign up page but it isn't scaled to use my full screen. I'll edit my post and put a picture on it later.

Hi ZippyV,

thanks a lot for your comment.
As I can see your HTC Diamond has a 480x640 which is 4x bigger than our prototype PDA screen format! It would be great if we could support all configurations but unfortunately there are some trade-offs that we had to consider. Normally this device, although released a month ago and running 6.1, could be supported, but the display specs are beyond our reach for now.

About the flash, our site does not yet track OS/browser type so for now it is intended to be accessible only from desktop browsers.
It was good to mention it though.

Thank you again very much.

W3bbo said:

Hmm, well-executed UX design. I laud the product for showing that Microsoft's own UI guidelines aren't up to scratch.

Before I give it a try, how does it affect battery life? My Axim X51v's Wifi drains the battery like there's no tomorrow, Bluetooth is pretty much the same. How many hours non-stop playtime do you get?

Hi W3boo,

and thank you for your comment.

About the UI I have to say this was a tough call. Microsoft's UI specs are indeed restricting and do not give so many choices to developers. On the other hand however some of them make much sense (e.g. the "Start" button should be available in case the application hangs up)
To meet these concerns, we added a 'Minimize' button which exits to WM without closing the application.

About the battery consumption this really depends on how you are using the application. There are no heavy background processes, so in a "rest state" there is no much battery consumption. However, if you watch TV or play a flash game, maybe there will be no tomorrow for your Axim!!    In these cases the WiFi card, the media player, or the flash engine can be heavy energy consumers. However, the most succint answer could be found trying the various features of the app.

thank you again for your kind feedback!

HI all!

I have recently been engaged in the creation of a new mobile application.
It is called Wi-Not Mobile, it is free and in short has 9 widgets, e.g. TV, Radio, IM, Games and more and was built in .NET Compact Framework 2.0

I would really much appreciate anyone that would take some time and test our app and I think Techoff is the right place with the right technical people!
The application homepage is http://www.wi-not.com

Thank you all in advance and I am eagerly waiting for your feedback!!