open source has its pros and cons..
business wise - i dont recommend it especially to the non-techies..
Oct 27, 2004 at 5:19 AM
open source has its pros and cons..
Richard Turner - What would you tell a college student who is trying to decide between .NET or otherOct 27, 2004 at 4:47 AM
Just wanted to add a few things..
Its funny - I used to be one of those java/linux guys and stumbled across .net 3 years ago by chance.. since then I never looked back..
Now for my point ( ) - I'm currently completing my CS degree and have been able to turn those non-believers into steadfast followers!
I actually argued many of their points - both from a technical and a business perspective.
What really won them over is when did the following :
Both parties would sit at one computer - so me and the other guy
Then we would make up something to do. For example, make a webpage that takes in email address and verifies it to make sure its valid..
now the java/linux guy was able to keep up with me while we were making it.. so he still wasnt impressed
then we made a new assignment.. we decided to create 1 table in a database of our choice and populate with some data i just so happened to have handy (100000+ records) (basicaly a product table)
what we had to do was simple - search the data and spit back a response based off the search criteria in a nice manor..
well i think it took me a total of 10 minutes to perform this task..
afterwich i preceded to the coke machine while he spent his time coding away..
the end result - what wound up winning him over - productivity.. he was amazed at how fast one was able to make something - moreover - he was doubly impressed that it looked better than his..
and this is a hardcore / g00r00 linux type..
i will admit it hasnt been easy converting the masses but i shall convert all to c# one way or another
lol sorry some geek humor there
Oct 27, 2004 at 4:18 AMVariable,
"my personality going into interviews at MS was pristine, happy, positive, energized"
- did this fade perhaps? did you lose the energy? - I'm not poking - I'm only trying to understand what happened with your scenario.
#2 "write a routine..."
- how long ago was this? was this during the transition to asp.net and a more OO approach to programming. I could totally see why this question is feasible.
#3 "I got hired because I proved I had the right stuff in that I could and did continually learn what was put in front of me."
- did you continue to learn throughout your stay with microsoft - like - did you continue to expand your skill set and take on new technologies / products released by ms and others? just curious..
please remember - i mean no harm by my questions - its just to gain further insight.
wish you the best
Oct 27, 2004 at 4:08 AMJust a comment or two about this post - actually the original post.
Now - I personally have never worked for Microsoft - but have been working towards working there some day - hopefully soon ( waiting to see if i get 2nd interview ).
Anyhow - the reasoning behind writing this - guy.. calm down a bit.. There are times in a business where you have to let some people go. That is a fact of life in the business world. Sometimes you can hire - sometimes you fire.
All that aside - be happy that you got 4 years! Some of us don't even have our foot in the door yet. If you take the time to think for a moment what it is you have under your belt. You worked at Microsoft for 4 years. Now I'm not the "pro" on resume writing - but it doesn't take a genius to realize that having MS on your resume/cv will certainly make you seem like a great candidate.
Lastly, as to not over do this thread even more so - I totally agree with what was said in the reply about "Perhaps your tendency towards bitterness". Take time to reflect on that. In fact - when I read your post - it was the first thing that came to mind.
Anyhow.. Good luck!