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  • John Martyn

    Sadly gone today.


  • Robert Hess has a new show on Channel 9!

    I've always enjoyed Robert Hess and his rather languid style.

  • UK Government opting for Open Source Software

    Ray7 said:
    Bass said:
    *snip*


    ... odd that they're gaining more traction every day then. The number of jobs looking for .NET skills has rocketed in the UK over the past two years; they'll reach parity with Java by the end of this year I reckon (and I'm speaking as a Java developer). When you get down to it, what matters to the banks and the government offices is results; they don't really have time for idealism. In my experience, the FOSS tools still lack any real integration and still don't come close to the MS toolset when it comes to getting something up and running fast. This is a shame because I suspect that ASP.NET MVC will start to take over too, even though MS has only discovered design patterns in the last few years or so. There are lots of Java based solutions that are better than the new kid, (take a look at Tapestry or Wicket to see what ASP.NET MVC will look like ten years from now) but without solid integration and tooling, they're going to start to feel the pinch.

    The problem is that when folk talk about increasing use of open source, they're actually talking about the likes of Facebook and Twitter; a startup that (quite rightly) didn't see the benefit of forking out the upfront of costs of MS licenses.

    In this country at least, the government and the banks don't seem to see it the same way.





    I agree entirely with you here. There is no doubt that you have enormously skilled developers, that like to use somewhat deficient or less productive IDE's. Clearly anyone that uses most of these tools has never tried to ship a product within a 6 month time-scale and a strict budget.

    If you have a team of let say four developers that you are paying £400 a day each on a contract, you will need cohesion between their tools, and you will want them to be as productive as possible.When you also look at the most successful .NET 3.0 technology i.e. WCF with it's RESTFUL ADO.NET data services, you need tools that get the job done.

    Yes you will certainly win the esoteric, cerebral argument, about the superior programming capabilities of these tools, but visual studio allows you cohesion, without a loss in quality and I will ship my product in 5 months on a budget of £250 000, whereas you will double if not triple that budget, and probably lose the same amount of money in lost revenue sales.

    I think Bass needs to separate thinking with his head and his heart.

    Business is all about thinking with the head mostly, much as you'd love to see things done or written in a certain way. As the recent (and sad) layoffs at Microsoft will prove, Research and associated tools are not the bread and butter of the operation. Yes they open new doors, but when it comes down to business sense, you go with that which generates revenue.

  • Visual Studio 2008 + WPF = Pile of Crap

    Using Visual studio is like walking through treacle?

    First point of call is whether .NET 3.5 SP1 has been installed on this machine, if not please ensure that this has been done. Has Visual Studio 2008 SP1 been installed either, because that is also a necessity?

    Be warned though that this installation will take ages. Apart from that, I have had issues with VS 2008 intermittently taking forever to do anything, even with small windows forms projects, I have always gone for a reboot which seems to work.

  • MS Paint (Win7) is poor...

    mawcc said:
    Using Paint.NET, extending it with a Ribbon and adding support for MEF might have been a better choice.
    Why when users can just download the application if they need the additional features?

    Take the live suite for instance, if users don't require Email or messenger, they can choose to install what they want.


  • UK Government opting for Open Source Software

    blowdart said:
    vesuvius said:
    *snip*
    Misconstruction? It's stretching an awful analogy *grin* The problem with health solutions is that people will grab at everything, and then you end up with con men selling apricot pips as a cure for cancer.

    See how bad the analogy is?
    I'm not so sure.

    There are a number of concerns anybody must have when using Open Source software, especially opting to use it as the main program for any operation. People can sell these apricot pips to the Government, and say open source software can solve abstruse distributed problems, but the Government (or opposition) are not really in a position to best judge.

     I think apricot pips have been sold already as a ROI on the ISOFT project, hence the free option looks appealing.

     

  • UK Government opting for Open Source Software

    blowdart said:
    So some reality.

    This is not the government, it's an opposition statement. So it is not the UK government opting for open source.

    What's interesting is the mention of open standards, something far more useful. Lets face it sometimes closed source does a better job; so a concentration on open standards leaves scope for choosing the best solution for the problem.

    The problem with the NHS central spine wouldn't have been solved by open source, its more a lack of specifications, changing demands and large contractors whose penalty clauses are never called in when they fail.  In fact Connecting for Health does use open source, Suse to be precise. Novell has a £21.8 million contract for enterprise linux.
    Today's opposition is tomorrows Government, and I will bet my bottom dollar that this would never be opposed by Labour. The Conservatives are there to hold Labour to account, and in these times where the government is losing money hand over fist with Fiscal Stimuli, this isn't even an academic decision.

    Take GlaxoSmithKline for instance. Like windows they have patented recipes for medication that saves people lives. Some people try alternative medicine that has proven to work in some cases.

    Is the true story, rather, that proprietary companies have always charged through the teeth for honey, lemon and tea. The change here is that for ailments like the common cold, users can treat themselves, in some regard, using homoeopathic, even holistic remedies. One could liken this to a basic OS like Linux and Open Office. For more specialized medicine, like treating an aggressive form of cancer you analogously have Microsoft solving the hard distributed application paradigm?

    Is this type of reasoning misconstruction?

  • UK Government opting for Open Source Software

    This is quite remarkable.

    'Modernising government'

    Mr Osborne said: "The Conservative Party is looking to the future. We have led the debate on using open source software in government, and I'm delighted that Dr Mark Thompson has come forward with these detailed recommendations.

    The White Elephant that is the National Health Service IT project has gone into many billions, and still no sign of completion. As Linux and Open Office reach stable and robust levels, their free price mitigates any advantages proprietary companies may have.

    Just like the smoking ban in New York, and the French Government opting for Linux, Britain appears to be following the same trend. It seems all Government want now is a free OS, with a Web browser application that their staff can use to input some base Government programmes.

    One gross misconstruction by Politicians though, is in not grasping what things like Azure bring to the table, and that a highly distributed application like the one being written for the NHS would take a century to attain via open source.

    Yes open source will eat into Microsoft OS share significantly especially, if Governments start opting out of OS and hardware upgrades, is this the thin end of the wedge?


  • At Wits end with VS2008 issue

    vesuvius said:
    Sven Groot said:
    *snip*
    We have debated this problem before in the forum and I went with your guidelines, and don't use an underscore when naming fields in a .NET class.

    I just feel that as a form of defensive programming, is it not better to just use the underscores instead?

    I guess you could argue that how many times does this error occur? Also if you offer the same letter as an intellisense identifier, then your are definitely increasing the surface area for class field/property bugs such as the one in this post.

    Post available at: http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/TechOff/454273-At-Wits-end-with-VS2008-issue/Default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0


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    This was the post, by the way!

  • At Wits end with VS2008 issue

    Sven Groot said:
    Dr Herbie said:
    *snip*
    I use underscores as well, since I believe that distinguishing two identifiers by case only is a very bad idea. This is a pretty good example of why.
    We have debated this problem before in the forum and I went with your guidelines, and don't use an underscore when naming fields in a .NET class.

    I just feel that as a form of defensive programming, is it not better to just use the underscores instead?

    I guess you could argue that how many times does this error occur? Also if you offer the same letter as an intellisense identifier, then your are definitely increasing the surface area for class field/property bugs such as the one in this post.

    Post available at: http://channel9.msdn.com/forums/TechOff/454273-At-Wits-end-with-VS2008-issue/Default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0


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