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William Kempf wkempf
  • Vista More Secure then Linux and OSX

    uriel wrote:
    julianbenjamin wrote:
    uriel wrote:

    Then by all means don't! But don't act like you are some kind of Linux expert to me and let me know how much better Windows is. Here are something Windows zealots can't seem to comprehend: Most Linux users were former Windows users. We are much more creditable then your cred just for this reason alone.

    But, here's something you (linux zealot?) don't seem to comprehend: most of the people on this forum have tried Linux (or even use it to manage servers at work, at an ISP, etc), and still chose Windows over it.  So I don't see how "former Windows users" are more credible.

    I don't believe that one bit. If people here used Linux recently they wouldn't be so hateful or FUDish about it. Sorry.

    1.  I'm one such person.
    2.  I'm not hateful, or FUDish.
    3.  Linux is a great tool for certain tasks.
    4.  Windows is a great tool for other tasks.
    5.  In my experience, Windows is far easier to use, even for the tasks that Linux is a better tool.
    6.  I hardly ever see "Windows zealots".  I see people defend the OS of their choice against other zealots, but a zealot initiates it with FUD and hate.

    Linux has two major problems.  One is that the developer base is too L337 to realize they need to fix their interface.  The tools perform wonderfully, but it takes a skilled computer hacker much too long to perform tasks he's not done before, much less Aunt Tillie having a hope of performing said task.

    The second problem isn't technical, and it's probably the biggest problem.  Linux has too many zealots, trolls, cry babies, anti-social nutcases and fringe-politic people.

  • Silverlight in 21 days!

    Rich2k wrote:

    I've not played with it, or looked at Moonlight but if it's not 100% complete, then how have they implemented it in 21 days?  Seems to me they have some working examples but not a complete silverlight implementation.

    Not to say they haven't done good work, because they have.

    No one claimed it was "complete".  But it sounds like it's beyond just "run a few specific examples" and is closer to beta quality for this sort of thing.  With out a spec to base it on, it won't ever be "complete".

  • Silverlight in 21 days!

    Xaero_Vincent wrote:
    Since this is open source, can we expect Moonlight to be ported elsewhere (freebsd, solaris, ...)?

    Definately.  Mono runs just about everywhere, and I think you can expect they'd do the same with Moonlight.

  • Awww the GPL won't invalidate the MS/​Novell/​Distro patent

    cornelius wrote:
    i wonder what our resident linux trolls have to say...

    *chirp, chirp.... .... .... .... chirp chirp*

  • Silverlight in 21 days!

    cornelius wrote:
    The past 21 days have been some of the most intense hacking days that I have ever had and the same goes for my team that worked 12 to 16 hours per day every single day --including weekends-- to implement Silverlight for Linux in record time. We call this effort Moonlight.

    lol talk about slave labor! fairplay to them and to microsoft by having software being developed for them for free

    I've put in worse hours.  Not smart for companies to expect this kind of output, but I'd not classify it as slave labor.  Especially in this specific case, where it was done by volunteers who wanted to succeed at any cost.

  • Silverlight in 21 days!

    footballism wrote:
    If they really ended up implementing the Moonlight within the alleged days, then you by no means should use it


    I know you're joking, but did you read the post linked to?  They don't claim it's 100% complete.  Nor do they claim there's no bugs.  Nor do they claim it's production ready.  They haven't released a build for these very reasons.  However, they've implemented enough in those 21 days to run several sample applications and probably have enough to declare "beta" quality.

  • Silverlight in 21 days!

    And I don't mean one of those cheesy development books that claim you can learn a technology in only 21 days.  No, I mean the Mono team, though volunteers, managed to implement Moonlight, their Silverlight implementation on Linux, in only 21 days!


    No matter how you dice this, no matter what you think of .NET/Mono and Silverlight/Moonlight, this is something massively impressive and we should all be singing praises to those that have achieved this!

    I'm excited by this, and I have no interest in Silverlight/Moonlight.  I'd rather have cross platform WPF.  But 21 days?!!  Wow!!

  • example of bias, but tech bias

    Massif wrote:
    eagle wrote:

    Please give us a link to an article or story by the BBC with a positive spin on an American event or company.

    First find a positive American event or company

    (I know, I know I'm stirring.)

    If you can't say anything nice, it means you're not a nice person.  (Restraining self from telling you off.)

  • How long will Windows last?

    eagle wrote:
    The problem is the same as it alway was, anyone can create 10,000 usernames on C9.

    No, the problem is anyone can be an annoying so and so, as you're proving.  Numerous people on here have multiple logins for one reason or another, and for the most part, that doesn't make any difference to the quality of C9.  What's killing C9 are the trolls (you're being one now, even if it's not intentional).

    So, drop it and move on.  You have no evidence Kristina isn't on the level, and I don't get the impression that she's not.  You're being hypersensitive and closed minded.  Her post was a valid topic, and didn't really dip into troll territory.

  • How long will Windows last?

    Microsoft, the company, isn't likely to go away or even lose dominance in my life time.  At least no more than IBM did (and if you don't think IBM is still dominant, you're mistaken... they just aren't dominant in software).  They're simply too big, and thus far, agile enough to keep up with changes in our industry (despite slips, like being slow to get with the Internet).

    Windows, the OS, may continue to be the "market leader" for that entire period as well.  Or it may not.  Won't matter much.  In a fairly short time period (maybe ten years) the OS is going to become as meaningful as what brand of hardware you run.  W3bbo came close to why, even if he dismissed it.  I say close, because I don't think it will be "web" apps, but "distributed" apps.  We've been wrong for some time when we talk about web applications.  I've actually been saying that since the idea of web apps was dreamed up but not yet implemented.

    The web was built for documents, not applications.  It's unbelievable at what it does, and we've yet to explore it's entire realm of possibility.  But it's still not, nor will it ever be, appropriate for applications.  Like W3bbo said, you can push XHTML and JS only so far, and while we've not finished pushing there yet, it's still never going to be ideal for most applications.

    However, richer networked and distributed applications are going to become what's important, and what we use on a daily basis.  You saw that start with Java, continue with .NET, and now you're seeing a huge shift in this area with Flash/JavaFX/Silverlight, and, hopefully, WPF applications via ClickOnce (if not, some other tech will take that spot).  Since these applications are distributed and networked, there's a necessity that they be portable (and VMs allow this, with out the need for #ifdefs and other such painful code).  This means the OS will become no more important to users than the hardware is.  It will truly be a means to an end, and not the "platform" used on a daily basis.  The "platform" will be the Internet.  We'll use the same applications no matter where we are, no matter what computer we use, no matter what OS runs on the computer.

    That's why everyone is trying hard to gain dominance with the Internet technology dujor (again, Flash/Silverlight/JavaFX/XUL/pick a thousand other lesser known attempts).  Microsoft is doing better than most in this arena right now.  That's why I say with confidence that Microsoft isn't going away any time soon, even if the Windows OS might lose some market share.