Channel 9 - Discussions by z2bass http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 - Discussions by z2bass http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/z2bass/Discussions Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/z2bass/Discussions en Mon, 20 May 2013 16:14:26 GMT Mon, 20 May 2013 16:14:26 GMT Rev9 0 0 0 Coffeehouse - The fastest Vista laptop on the market Two problems there:

1) PC World is using their benchmarks. Who KNOWS what the heck those are. They might have just given the MacBook and extra point or 10 just because it's a Mac.

2) They might have taken the cheapest notebooks from Toshiba, Dell, etc and the most expensive MacBook they could buy. For example, they have only tested 1 tablet PC in the HISTORY of PC World, a Gateway tablet, which isn't one of the better Tablet PCs on the market.

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mawcc wrote:
While watching the new screencasts from Daniel Moth (see Screencasts section), I noticed that when he opens Visual Studio 2008, the splash screen doesn't contain the "Beta 2" text anymore.

Might this be an indication that an RTM version is already available at Microsoft internally? Or is it an RC (which I doubt because Scott Guthries mentioned in his blog that the final release is not very far off).

Has anyone more information? Any interviews with Scott and/or Soma planned in the near future, Charles ?


They usually remove Beta 2 off the splash right after it ships. That doesn't mean that it is RTMed, it just means The Moth is using an internal build of VS 2008.

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Cornelius Ellsonpeter wrote:

z2bass wrote:
How about you learn both? They are both VERY similar. They really don't have many differences. Most people split hairs over small features... but they esentually do the same stuff and both merge to IL. If you want a "feature-rich" language, I suggest you start learning IL
Funny...I picked up a VB.NET book the other day. Both languages do share a lot in common. But if I go to the trouble of learning the IL, I'd take it a step further and build my own language!


You can  look out there... there are MANY features that you can take advantage of in IL that you can't do in C# or VB. The features just haven't been integrated into the C#/VB languages.

They are similar. People think that VB was "adopted" from previous versions and is just ploped into the .NET framework. That isn't the case. When they started development of .NET, they started on a fresh codebase and took the VB syntax with them, not the code. It's clean Smiley

But C# is a great language... all .NET languages are great, in fact.

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To me, that would be REALLY sweet to see the codebase for c9 v4 since it is a clean implementation of ASP.NET code.

DotNetKicks open sourced a while ago... so how about it, c9???

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And I'm not quite sure that would allow them to kidnap people in the future.

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1) Didn't deliver in a timely manner
2) Delivered something that was... interesting Smiley

I would have expected a little more out of the team... especially since they are using Scrum. We should be seeing a new version (or updated) every 4 weeks (says the Scrum gods.)

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Larsenal wrote:
Anyone have ideas for some fun C9 community activities?

1) Maybe another coding contest wrought with intrigue and scandal?
2) Maybe a collaborative save-the-world-with-software project?
3) Or how about a "remix" C9v4 if-you-had-fun-you're-a-winner competition?
4) Nine Guy makeovers?

edit: reformatted


Dang... they should use your avatar as the Nine guy! That is really cool!

avatar

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Scoble would make a terrible Microsoft emplyee right about now. PR would be ALL over him if he still worked at Microsoft.

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I still think that Orcas is seriously flawed. I remember the good ol' days... the days of Visual Studio 2005 Beta. I absolutly loved that program. What I really liked was all the videos, blog posts, Channel 9 things, and bug reporting. With the Orcas (oops... its now Visual Studio 2008), I just don't see that. The only employee blogging about LINQ, Silverlight, and VS 2008 is ScottGu. Everyone else just gives the same old stuff. For exaple, my reader got this about 200 times during (and 3 weeks after) Mix: "Silverlight 1.1 Beta Release". No, in fact, I STILL get the occational post about that. What is the use in that?

Microsoft has potential. Hopefully the iPhone and OSX 10.5 (CodeName Vista... I mean "Leopard") will give some compeitition.

I just thought of something... maybe the next "version of Windows" will not actually be "Windows". Maybe it will be something so different... potential, no passion. (HAHA... eat your words Microsoft!)

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It doesn't look good... but its close.

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June: Post-Beta 1 CTP

July: Beta 2

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I'm guessing that they will be sued by someone like Java. Microsoft will win, hands down.

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It's the only solution that worked for me.

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esoteric wrote:

z2bass wrote: 

UltimaHosts.NET

On  most plans they don't keep track of bandwidth!!!!!!!!!!


Sounds quite interesting, though I note, according to the site:

- Data Transfer: 1/2 TB
- Data Transfer + 10 GB: $ 10 per month

That doesn't really assure me. But thanks for the link.


With the higher prices plans (Such as CSK.NET which is what I own) their panel doesn't track bandwidth... I'm sure they don't track it... I've asked. Check out all the plans... Ultima is really the best, hands down.

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On  most plans they don't keep track of bandwidth!!!!!!!!!!

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