Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/532176_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Over thousands of years, language has evolved in order to provide mankind a mechanism for making it easier to communicate with one another. Today, the world is filled with a wide variety of languages, some of which are radically different from one another, while others bear striking similarities. In addition to improving interpersonal communications, however, languages have evolved to facilitate the transfer of information, instructions, and intent between people and machines. Understanding, designing, and evangelizing many of these languages, and democratizing the programming methodologies within them, is Erik Meijer. Erik is a legendary figure in the programming language design community and one of Niner Nation's favorite personalities. Today, tune in and meet the man behind the code; some of Erik's fascinating personal and professional histories may well surprise you. The great Robert Hess moderates this latest edition of Behind the Code.Enjoy.PS: Erik will be speaking at MIX10! en Thu, 23 May 2013 06:29:08 GMT Thu, 23 May 2013 06:29:08 GMT Rev9 Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Very fond of Eric ... but 750 mb to download ! ? What world do you live in ?
Well worthwhile nonetheless !

 

 

posted by Thoughtware N.Z

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033363720000000 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:52:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033363720000000 Thoughtware N.Z Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Download a lower res video... Click on the Media Downloads link next to the player.

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033369810000000 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:03:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033369810000000 Charles Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Listening to Eric Meijer is always deeply informative and fun! This is no exception!

 

Thanks Eric!

posted by keithfl

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033503170000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:45:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033503170000000 keithfl Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Agreed. I really enjoyed the detail Erik (note the spelling of his first name Smiley) went into with respect to his personal history. This was a very insightful interview. Thanks Erik and Robert!

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033560670000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:21:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033560670000000 Charles Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause The high file size is due to Erik's awesome shirt!  All those colors literally melt man's best algorithms.  Wink

posted by kiwimonk

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033662480000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:10:48 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033662480000000 kiwimonk Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Erik is a inspiration and one of those people I would dearly love to meet some day. Great to see him interviewed in this manner.

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033667560000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:19:16 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033667560000000 tomkirbygreen Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause When will you you guys get Dave Cutler?

 

We demand him!

posted by vesuvius

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033765390000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:02:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033765390000000 vesuvius Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause The 'domain equation of the untyped lambda calculus' .... owwww ... my brain hurts!

 

//delegate - domain equation of the untyped lambda calculus D D( D d);

posted by keithfl

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033837210000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:02:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033837210000000 keithfl Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause D  D( D d);

 

Yes, I want to hear more about this ... sounds like another show.

posted by Richard.Hein

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033961020000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:28:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634033961020000000 Richard.Hein Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Excellent!

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034007120000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:45:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034007120000000 exoteric Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause You are right, it is more difficult to compress when there are more moving colors ! Smiley

 

Erik you should consider less color shirts for C9 interviews Smiley The video compression works better that way- LOL Smiley .

 

This would be a really geek approach to clothing.

I can imagine Erik picking an outfit for the day based on the compression algorithms Smiley

posted by ivan_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034063610000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:19:21 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034063610000000 ivan_ Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Fractal compression may help Wink

 

...I hope Erik isn't doing designing languages at Microsoft. Even though Rx et al is very cool, someone needs to push the limits for all programmers: the programming language designers.

 

Would also like to hear more about Spec# and Sing# on Channel 9 and whether there are plans to incorporate more features from these into C# or maybe "productize" Sing# in VS.

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034135100000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:18:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034135100000000 exoteric Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Very interesting. Good to see more of Erik behind the scenes. I must say he's an inspirational character.

 

My career has gone in the opposite direction... historically I was only interested in theory with applications, and theory that was therefore just good enough for the problem space, i.e. a typical engineer. These days I'm finding I missed out on so much theory that way and went too quick to the solution. I've always drummed into developers to step back from the problem, and take time to think: take things up a level or two before coming back down. Ask how I would like to solve this problem, before deciding how to solve the problem. All this time I was not applying that myself to the higher level concepts in programming. Still I'd never like to be purely academic: I like the feedback of seeing things actually doing something.

 

With all the new posts going up on channel 9 these days I find many of them bland.... I confess to filtering by Charles' posts and then looking at those for ones worth watching!

 

On the delegate D D( D d);

 

There was one of the Functional Programming episodes where Erik mentioned that all programs (should that be expressions?) could be compiled into the SKI combinators. However he then said that really you need only one, but frustratingly never elaborated. Is this function of the untyped Lambda calculus the ONE?

posted by Parmenio

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034157450000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:55:45 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034157450000000 Parmenio Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause  
// domain equation untyped lambda calculus delegate D D(D d);

 

With the help from the people in #haskell, here's an example:

data D = D {unD :: D -> D} omega = (\x -> unD x x) (D $ \x -> unD x x)

 

 

posted by ShinNoNoir

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034165320000000 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:08:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034165320000000 ShinNoNoir Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Since there seems to be quite some interest in the untyped lambda calculus and the way Erik wrote the domain equation in C# syntax, people may be interested in this post of mine on the subject, seen from an angle of .NET 4 technologies. It's titled (Mis)using C# 4.0 Dynamic – Type-Free Lambda Calculus, Church Numerals, and more and goes into quite some detail on untyped lambda calculus, Church Numerals, etc.

 

 

Have fun!

-Bart

posted by bdesmet

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034336580000000 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:54:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034336580000000 bdesmet Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Yet another awesome blog post, Bart. Thanks for sharing!

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034380540000000 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:07:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034380540000000 Charles Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause A warning to others, don't skim ahead when reading Bart's blog posts, you must read one line at a time, or your mind will explode.  He has reduced me to tears.  "Start at the beginning, keep going until you get to the end, then stop."  Perplexed

posted by Richard.Hein

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034417990000000 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:09:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634034417990000000 Richard.Hein Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause I'm not sure "reduced me to tears" is a compliment or not Smiley. Either way, I forgot to add a link to yet another post on the topic, that achieves very similar effects by without using C# 4.0 dynamic. Here it is: Type-Free Lambda Calculus in C#, Pre-4.0 – Defining the Lambda Language Runtime (LLR). Don't hesitate to contact me if something is unclear.

posted by bdesmet

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634035347500000000 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:59:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634035347500000000 bdesmet Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause What an excellent discussion.

 

Thank you Charles, Robert and Erik!

 

Do you think it would be possible to provide the "uncut" version? Between the segments I imagine there was a lot more covered!

posted by Martin S

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634036105510000000 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:02:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634036105510000000 Martin S Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause Awesome post. Erik is the man.. in palm trees. Can we get a link to the books he references?

posted by Dark_Halmut

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634037890970000000 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:38:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634037890970000000 Dark_Halmut Re: Erik Meijer: Rebel with a Cause

posted by head.in.the.box

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634038371440000000 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:59:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Behind+The+Code/Erik-Meijer-Rebel-with-a-Cause-Democratizing-the-Machine#c634038371440000000 head.in.the.box