Comment Feed for Channel 9 - GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App http://files.channel9.msdn.com/thumbnail/b3eb9530-5869-4a3e-bf7a-e06785e680b1.jpg Channel 9 - GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App Fresh Paint is an excellent Windows Store App (for Windows 8). It's fun to use, realistic and beautiful ( yes, we really like this app ). In this episode we will meet the developers behind Fresh Paint, Subha Bhattacharyay, Adam Szofran, and  Kaushik Barat. Being native developers, they built their Windows Store app using C++. Being modern native Windows developers, they used DirectX and XAML (including DirectX running on XAML surfaces) to generate a beautiful UX with very realistic painting experiences - you can literally watch the paint dry . The team shares many details that should spark your imagination for writing compelling C++ Windows Store Apps using DirectX and XAML.C++ + DirectX + XAML is an incredibly compelling combination (the simplicity of XAML and the power of DX, composed in C++). This is how you can really push the boundaries of what's possible for modern Windows apps. So, go get this free Windows 8 app, make some art (mix different oil colors, zoom in, check out the realistic fluid dynamical effects). Then, come back and learn about what's going on inside of Fresh Paint and meet the developers who wrote it. [00:00] GoingNative(); //Very quick ctor this month.[01:34] Charles interviews the Fresh Paint development team[40:04] ~GoingNative(); // Meet the new Visual C++ Community PM, Eric Battalio!! en Sat, 18 May 2013 21:54:28 GMT Sat, 18 May 2013 21:54:28 GMT Rev9 Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App Completely yummy! I use SketchBook Pro for concepts and doodles a lot on my iPad, so I'm very keen to see some serious competition coming from WinRT tablets in this space - the fact that its a poster child for native dev too is just the cherry on the cake!

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842873211885657 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:15:21 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842873211885657 tomkirbygreen Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App I went to try it out, but alas Win7 isn't sufficient. Sad That wasn't clear from the blog post (maybe the movie says more).

posted by mlimber

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842900306614954 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:00:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842900306614954 mlimber Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App @mlimber: Hi. There is no store for Windows 7 (and therefore no Windows Store Apps for Windows 7). Sorry I didn't make this clearer in the description. I will edit now.

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842905423271842 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:09:02 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842905423271842 Charles Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App Thanks for making these great videos, they are really motivating me to get started with some c++ windows store apps! I am also hoping for a c++11 and c++ & XAML video-tutorials down the road :)

posted by jVangsnes

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842918048997755 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:30:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842918048997755 jVangsnes Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App what type of the ms surface in the video? Is this PRO version or RT?

posted by John

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842925448547281 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:42:24 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842925448547281 John Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App @John: There is no Surface in the video Smiley Those are Samsung Series 7 tablets.

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842935847096512 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:59:44 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842935847096512 Charles Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App @jVangsnes: Right on!

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842936330624883 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:00:33 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842936330624883 Charles Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App This is the first developer/Charles video I've watched on C9 in quite a while.
I seem to remember seeing an early version of this app on C9 a long time ago.

posted by dentaku

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842957535788988 Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:35:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634842957535788988 dentaku Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App @dentaku: that could be Gustav: http://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/project-gustav

 

posted by felix9

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843104478006045 Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:40:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843104478006045 felix9 Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App Charles, I've downloaded the High Quality WMV and it doesn't get past the first 15/20minutes. It just springs at the beginning. The same problem I've had with the c++ and beyond panel video. I am not sure if this is a video issue or download issue, but you may want to check it.

posted by octavian

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843369398077935 Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:02:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843369398077935 octavian Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App Awesome. This is extremely inspiring. Keep up the good work.

posted by vidg

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843369680446035 Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:02:48 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843369680446035 vidg Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App I have been using this app every morning on the train to work on my Samsung tablet. It's addictive.

posted by B3NT_0

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843432832901530 Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:48:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843432832901530 B3NT_0 Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App Yup, I forgot what it was called.

, felix9 wrote

@dentaku: that could be Gustav: http://channel9.msdn.com/Tags/project-gustav

 

posted by dentaku

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843450988876571 Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:18:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843450988876571 dentaku Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App @octavian: will look into it. Thank you.

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843993665755097 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:22:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843993665755097 Charles Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App It does seem inspired by Gustav which was really cool. Only problem I'm having is the pen doesn't work right. Right clicking with the pen should bring up the app bar. One thing that I really liked about Gustav was the simultaneous pen+touch so it felt very real. This is great though, I like it.

posted by dtower

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843995229261589 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 03:25:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634843995229261589 dtower Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App What exactly is this interfacing between Xaml and c++ they are talking about? Is it project-dependent (could it be generated by a future version of vs?) or is it more of a general infrastructure-type interfacing (could it be made public  as a library)

 

Also it seems there are quite a lot of non trivial d3d changes to make a win8 version of a win7 app. What was the motivation for changing d3d so deeply? What kind of support can a dev expect from vs or msft to make the d3d 10->11 conversion take as little dev time as possible?

posted by cedricmi

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634844147759298643 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:39:35 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634844147759298643 cedricmi Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App @cedricmi:

There is useful information on MSDN a la http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff476190

For WinRT programming with DX11, there's this: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee663275.aspx (a good place to start...)

Use the DirectX11.1 API, but you can target DX9, DX10 or DX11 hardware using feature levels (documentation at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/Hh994923.aspx or Chuck Walbourn's excellent blog http://blogs.msdn.com/b/chuckw/archive/2012/06/20/direct3d-feature-levels.aspx).

You should target feature level 9_1 to reach the broadest audience (ARM devices will come with only 9_1 hardware...).

We'd also recommend the following video recorded in May this year: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Windows-Camp/Developing-Windows-8-Metro-style-apps-in-Cpp/Cpp-and-DirectX-for-Metro-Style-Games. It highlights some of the changes that need to be done from Desktop to WinRT (Eg; Use CoreWindow instead of hWND...).

The documentation at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh465061.aspx and the Direct3D Tutorial sample (http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Windows-Camp/Developing-Windows-8-Metro-style-apps-in-Cpp/Cpp-and-DirectX-for-Metro-Style-Games) are all great resources to get started.

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634844428724066998 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:27:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634844428724066998 Charles Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App the camera zooming in and out is nauseating....   >.<

posted by tswalker

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634847800420771643 Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:07:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634847800420771643 tswalker Re: GoingNative 11: Inside Fresh Paint - A C++ + XAML + DirectX Windows Store App is it possible to download the project source to learn from.. perhaps on CodePlex?

posted by tswalker

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634847807873905494 Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:19:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/C9-GoingNative/C9GoingNative-11-Inside-Fresh-Paint-A-Cpp-XAML-DirectX-Windows-Store-App#c634847807873905494 tswalker