Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/3547/f0238ffe-fb9e-4bd9-8872-f53ce8d33547/DefragTools23_220.jpg Channel 9 - Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK In this episode of Defrag Tools, Andrew Richards and Larry Larsen upgrade the software we downloaded in Episode #1 to the Windows 8 (x86 &x64) and Windows RT (ARM) versions. Resources: Windows Software Development Kit (SDK) for Windows 8SysinternalsUSB3 Debugging Cable- Note, you must use a USB3 A-A cable designed for debugging, otherwise it will fry your box!Timeline: [00:00] - Table tablets and 4K screens at CES 2013[02:30] - Time to upgrade our tools to the Windows 8\Windows RT versions![03:20] - www.sysinternals.com[05:34] - Win7SP1 and Win8RTM folders[06:16] - Bing: "Windows 8 SDK"[06:53] - Bing: "Debugging Tools for Windows"[07:25] - New web installer does installation or download.[10:02] - MSI files are in the ..\Windows Kits\8.0\StandaloneSDK\Installers[13:00] - Sync your 'My' folder with SkyDrive so it is always available![13:30] - Install the Debugging Tools for Windows to gather the files for xcopy deployment[15:33] - Visual Studio 2012 builds PDBs with Inline Frame information[17:23] - Visual Studio 2012 builds PDBs with Local Variable information[18:55] - Windows 8 supports Network and USB3 kernel debugging[21:10] - Visual Studio 2012 now supports both the VS and DbgEng debugger engines[21:40] - Keep posting questions and sending email to defragtools@microsoft.com! CES 2013: Microsoft PixelSenseThe Hobbit - Production Diary #4 - Film shot at 5K 48fps 3D en Fri, 24 May 2013 05:16:12 GMT Fri, 24 May 2013 05:16:12 GMT Rev9 Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK I was very interested in this since I was building my 'lightsaber' again today and conveniently you post exactly what I was wondering about Smiley

posted by Imperfect1

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634937807659131628 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:19:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634937807659131628 Imperfect1 Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK Perhaps I am mistaken but I thought you had mentioned that Application Verifier can xcopy into the My directory in much the same way as WPT and the debuggers.  Is there anything special that is required outside of just copying the folder in?

posted by Imperfect1

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634937841098939028 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:15:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634937841098939028 Imperfect1 Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK @Imperfect1: I'll have to double check about App Verifier -- Now that you say that I'm doubting myself.  It may require installation as you say.

The Debugger and WPT are definitely xcopy as that is how I use them everyday.

posted by windev

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634937888958671055 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:34:55 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634937888958671055 windev Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK posted by David E Nation Sr

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634938033224884974 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:35:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634938033224884974 David E Nation Sr Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK Guys, the link on the resource link is not a real Windows 8 SDK.
It's Windows 7 SDK, and it's targetted for Windows 7 and .,NET 4.0.

Please correct/update the link, guys!

 

posted by eriawankusuma

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634938184315762147 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:47:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634938184315762147 eriawankusuma Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK @eriawankusuma: Fixed.

posted by windev

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634938690998845174 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:51:39 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634938690998845174 windev Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK Surface RT only has USB2. VS debugging over wifi seems to work well though.

posted by dtower

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634939595626556933 Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:59:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634939595626556933 dtower Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK The link to sysinternals.com in the timeline is missing the s linking to parking domain and possiblity hosting malicious stuff.

posted by Zyo

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634939665747416210 Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:56:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634939665747416210 Zyo Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK @Zyo:Fixed! Thanks for catching that

posted by Duncanma

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634939672902911675 Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:08:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634939672902911675 Duncanma Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK Finally! Thanks.

Really wish there was still a standalone iso for the SDK though.

I ran the x64 debugging tools installer and it seems to have installed into the 32 bit program files folder?

C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Debuggers\x64

Anyways, I'm guessing this is the right version since Windbg is showing:

Windows 8 Version 9200 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: SingleUserTS
Built by: 6.2.9200.16384 (win8_rtm.120725-1247)

Couldn't we just use the .effmach x86 command to switch between x64 and x86?

 

posted by daviangel

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634940952744271475 Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:41:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634940952744271475 daviangel Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK @daviangel: That will be it. Because you installed the sdk first, the path was set to the SDK tree. Having an ISO is useful (especially with Hyper-V), but a once off Standalone install isn't too different (like what I showed). You could always make an ISO of the folder.

As discussed in the SOS episode, you need to match the bitness to do some types of debugging. Yes, .effnach helps but it doesn't get you completely there. Match the bitness and you will be better off...

posted by windev

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634942450898315474 Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:18:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634942450898315474 windev Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK What is the difference between the !db extension and db ?

posted by dcrearer

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634943047542708936 Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:52:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634943047542708936 dcrearer Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK @dcrearer: Not sure. Maybe !db supports the printing of more data?

posted by windev

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634945951602525092 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:32:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634945951602525092 windev Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK @dcrearer: Sorry, I didn't see this question earlier.

The !d commands (!db, !dc, !dd, etc.) take a physical memory address as the parameter. The regular d commands (db, dc, dd, etc.) take a virtual address. Other than that, they are the same.

posted by ChadBeeder

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634962053470837309 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:49:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634962053470837309 ChadBeeder Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK I installed VS2012 first on my machine. Then I installed the debuggers the way it is illustrated in the video. I cannot find SOS.dll. Is it in a different directory or what?

 

Any Help is appreciated.

 

Thanks!

posted by jpack61108

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634969766330248848 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 17:03:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634969766330248848 jpack61108 Re: Defrag Tools: #23 - Windows 8 SDK Nevermind! I answered my own silly question.

 

 

posted by jpack61108

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634969769364358906 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 17:08:56 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-23-Windows-8-SDK#c634969769364358906 jpack61108