Comment Feed for Channel 9 - E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/496461_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 Happy new year! It's hard to believe that it's 2010. To start off the new year right, how about some Beckman and Meijer? You recently learned about Dr. Beckman's perspective on covariance and contravariance in physics. Dr. Meijer found this topic to be incredibly interesting and the two geniuses decided to take a stab at identifying the relationship between co/contra in one domain, physics, and another, programming: two domains on three whiteboards What will they discover at the whiteboards? Tune in to find out in this three part series (part 2 here) with two of Channel 9's and Microsoft's most famous and respected software practitioners. Part three has not been filmed yet Enjoy! en Sun, 19 May 2013 03:44:39 GMT Sun, 19 May 2013 03:44:39 GMT Rev9 Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 WOW! What a great video! These two guys are just totaly amazing and true role models in terms of software and where the ideas behind it come from!

Oh, and Charles - nice trying to hide behing the white board, and while speaking of that - Eric needs a bigger one next time Big Smile

posted by wisnia

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posted by rhm

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posted by Charles

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979754830000000 Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:44:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979754830000000 Charles Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 Awesome video - I love seeing the comparison between the physics (engineering) world and the programming model of the world. Can't wait to see part 2.

posted by Steven J Ackerman

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979766750000000 Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:04:35 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979766750000000 Steven J Ackerman Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 Can't think who I'd rather see 2010 kick off with than the Erik and Brian! This stuff rocks my world.

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979768710000000 Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:07:51 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979768710000000 tomkirbygreen Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 That's a great whiteboard jam session, leaving us with a cliff hanger Smiley

It's just boiling over with creativity, can't wait for part 2.

 

I'd like whiteboard pens with motion capture to automatically recreate the text digitally

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979812010000000 Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:20:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979812010000000 exoteric Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 Couple of things...

1) Don't tease the viewer with half episodes! Wink

b) This presentation is very similar to what Blend does for WPF. (Don't let me kinda create the UI you envisage, create it yourself! Apparently easier said than done at the moment but you get the idea.) I'm sure that if I got that spec from Brian and didn't go through the functional middle man like Erik does, the implementation would have been different in one aspect or another. Maybe even one of the 70% failed projects in time or cost.

 

Great (half grr) video concept! Nothing like applied application to sink concepts home.

posted by N2Cheval

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979812450000000 Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:20:45 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979812450000000 N2Cheval Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 re: 1 - Nothing wrong with spreading out goodness: like great butter on toasty bread, one piece at a time. Smiley
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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979825670000000 Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:42:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979825670000000 Charles Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 I love the part in the begining when you Charles are doing the introduction and it looks like you wanted to say something more but "Beckman and Meijer" and imidiatly start their talk Big Smile

Good you didn't interupt them because there could have been some casualties Big Smile

posted by wisnia

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posted by axelriet

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979944520000000 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:00:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633979944520000000 axelriet Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 Thanks, great stuff! Smiley

 

I guess all scientists dealing with functions would benefint from being able to write function signatures/types the way Eric does on the whiteboard here (not needing to know everything Eric knows about type theory, just the basics displayed here!), as it is a very powerful tool/notation for clear thinking and presentation. (In addition to getting some type checking and inference for free).

posted by Jarle Stabell

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633980386810000000 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:18:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633980386810000000 Jarle Stabell Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 I loved this! Ever since I learned Haskell I've thought about how much easier math would have been in school if the notation was more systematic or formal. But maybe that's just because I'm a programmer Smiley

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633992030890000000 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 01:44:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c633992030890000000 waern Re: E2E: Brian Beckman and Erik Meijer - Co/Contravariance in Physics and Programming, 1 of 3 posted by Nicolas Trangez

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c634217442820000000 Sun, 03 Oct 2010 23:11:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Brian-Beckman-and-Erik-Meijer-CoContravariance-in-Physics-and-Programming-1-of-2#c634217442820000000 Nicolas Trangez