Comment Feed for Channel 9 - E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/459091_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 You've already learned a great deal about Erik Meijer's latest programming creation, Rx, right here on Channel 9 (here and here, to be precise). Well, wouldn't it be great to get the two key minds behind Rx in one place with one whiteboard? Yes, of course it would! Enter Software Developer extraordinaire and language compiler geek Wes Dyer and programming language design guru and LINQ co-creator Erik Meijer to dig into the "Live Labs Reactive Framework (Rx)" or ".NET Reactive Framework (Rx)". So, let's be honest here. The official name of this great technology has not been determined. But, it's just a name and the name is so much less interesting than what this technology enables and will enable in the future for software developers. So, forget about the exact branding of Rx. Just think of it as, well, Rx until the marketing people come up with an official naming scheme (that most likely will not be as cool as Rx, but c'est la vie...). Here, Erik and Wes focus on the core ideas behind Rx and dig into the geeky details of this observer-based programming model. Rx is deep (as in profound), as you must have gathered by now. Erik, of course, keeps the theoretical basis of all this squarely front and center so we understand the relationship between principles and practice.Enjoy! en Wed, 22 May 2013 05:44:44 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 05:44:44 GMT Rev9 Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 ~1 hour of Rx internals? day: made.

what was that i said about hardcore dev content on c9 beeing thin lately? sure shut me up Wink

now if only vs2010 beta2 would drop, happiness would be complete

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897547940000000 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:13:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897547940000000 aL_ Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Still watching. I must say the dualization w/ Brian Beckman was somewhat more clear but this is a nice addition, even if the start at least was a bit messy. And I like the implementation detail here with disposition etc.

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897632490000000 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:34:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897632490000000 exoteric Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Come on Microsoft, quit with the teasing and ship the bits Smiley I really want to get my paws on this stuff!

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897661190000000 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:21:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897661190000000 tomkirbygreen Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 You will!! And if you have even more fundamental knowledge in your mind when you use your hands, well, you'll really "get" it!! Smiley
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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897661910000000 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:23:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897661910000000 Charles Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 I can't figure out why MS marketing people renaming technologies that target mostly developers.

First developers learn codename, than everybody gets confused with new name. Then regular people think one thing, developers the other. Seems like a lot of waste and redundant effort on the part of marketing. Such as WPF\e. Nice and clear name, no... it was changed to Silverlight, and then everybody was confused what does it have to do with WPF and .NET, and MS has to put extra millions into marketing explaning what Silverlight is. Sad

Keep Rx!!! it is way cooler. That is my say!!!

posted by ivan_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897779070000000 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:38:27 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897779070000000 ivan_ Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 We will keep Rx, but "Reactive Framework" will not be in the final naming scheme (there is one framework here, .NET....). So, think of Rx as an extenstion to .NET Framework. Yep, "Reactive Extensions" (just like Parallel Extensions for .NET, this is Reactive Extensions for .NET). So, the .NET marketing people are happy. Customers aren't confused. And, we get to keep a really cool name, Rx (which stands for Reactive (x)Extensions).

 

What do you think? Erik and team spend their time on coding and innovating, not naming and marketing - we have highly trained professionals who crank on naming and dealing with the incredibly complex legal adventure that is naming a product..... They are underappreciated, to be honest. But, yeah, naming is hard and we engineering types are not very good at it (see, I came up with ".NET Reactive Framework", which is just a bad idea all around. Sorry about that. Smiley Erik and Wes came up with the super cool Rx, which should make the cut since it's an abbreviation, but who knows....)

 

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897799080000000 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:11:48 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633897799080000000 Charles Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Are these the same people that came up with the name ".net 3.5 sp1", a version of the.net framework that uses version 2.0 of the clr and version 3.0 of the c# language?

if so im not sure what they are highly trained at, but naming cant be it Smiley imo engineers come up with the cool names, Rx, longhorn, blackcomb, (nintendo) revolution.

silverlight is ok i guess, its more than just wpf after all, but it doesnt have the same impact as "flash"

 

now bing.. thats a good name. to bad the search engine is crippeled everywhere but in the us Smiley

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898077530000000 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:55:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898077530000000 aL_ Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Done...

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898340120000000 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:13:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898340120000000 Charles Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Bing is not targeted at developers only. I was talking more in terms of .Net 3.5 SP1 type naming Smiley Which is not bad Smiley But things like

 

Microsoft SQL Server Business Intelligence Development Studio - I think it is kind of long. It takes me almost a minute to say it and hours to explain what it is. It is just Visual Studio for SSAS Smiley. But, hey,  I am not a naming expert. I'll leave to MS marketing people Smiley

 

 

 

posted by ivan_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898476360000000 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:00:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898476360000000 ivan_ Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 ~1 hour of Rx internals? day: made.

 

...

 

throwing IllogicalReferenceToCodeException();

posted by Moemeka

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898500980000000 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:41:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633898500980000000 Moemeka Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Can you do me a favor and call it Linq to Events? I can explain that to my boss and co-workers, but Reactive Extensions is going to draw a bunch of blank looks. I know it's not as 'cool' as Rx, but it's a lot more friendly.

 

Can we do some more deep dives like this?

 

 

posted by Ralph Trickey

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633900439700000000 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:32:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633900439700000000 Ralph Trickey Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Thanks for these amazing episodes! Not often the Axiom of Choice gets mentioned in a software developer context. Smiley

Please do not retire yet Erik! Wink

posted by Jarle Stabell

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633901023920000000 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:46:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633901023920000000 Jarle Stabell Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Two guys each repeating the same thing four times before moving to the next concept.  That was a painful 45 minutes.  Could've been five...

posted by hrmilo

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633901678000000000 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:56:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633901678000000000 hrmilo Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Thanks for the feedback, but... are you kidding me? Come on.....

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633901949440000000 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:29:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633901949440000000 Charles Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 I agree with Ralph Trickey: "Linq to Events" would be a great name !

posted by ramooon

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633905533140000000 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:01:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633905533140000000 ramooon Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Cheers guys.

posted by sjhuk

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633937103330000000 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:58:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c633937103330000000 sjhuk Re: E2E: Erik Meijer and Wes Dyer - Reactive Framework (Rx) Under the Hood 1 of 2 Dr. Meijer is usually so good at explaining these things, but here he fails and assumes we've all got the math know-how to follow him.
Still, nice shirt!
 

posted by MLH1138

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c634244316170000000 Thu, 04 Nov 2010 01:40:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/E2E-Erik-Meijer-and-Wes-Dyer-Reactive-Framework-Rx-Under-the-Hood-1-of-2#c634244316170000000 MLH1138