Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Singularity IV: Return of the UI http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/222024_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Singularity IV: Return of the UI Here is the long-awaited demo of the latest incarnation of Singularity, a research operating system written primarily in safe C#. See Singularity III: Return of the SIP, here. en Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:30:21 GMT Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:30:21 GMT Rev9 Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI
lol

posted by CRPietschmann

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915347000000000 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:51:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915347000000000 CRPietschmann Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI

posted by Chadk

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915392900000000 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:08:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915392900000000 Chadk Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI posted by littleguru

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915686170000000 Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:16:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915686170000000 littleguru Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI posted by May_Melissa

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915721390000000 Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:15:39 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915721390000000 May_Melissa Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI
I notice in the dir listing that it is much more than a flat filesystem, you have listings for chan (channels?) and mem (memory?? very cool), very unix/powershell.

I also notice that in tasklist it shows 'share memory' and processes are actually sharing memory? What does that mean, I thought they were SIP? (sorry if that is a silly question.

How many hardware protection domains can you have, is there a limit depending on hardware?

Interns in MSR, what kind of intern gets to work on a project like this, is he or she a graduate or undergraduate intern, that would be very very cool project to work on for your summer!

What language is the Kernel written in, I thought it was C#, but that seems to be, may be way off here, managed C++.

One more question, do the apps compiled for the system run on both x86 and AMD64, or when an app is compiled is that it, it is completely and totally tied to that processor architecture. I think you answered this in the video, adn the answer was yes, sooooooo, if thats the case, is Singulairty a 64-bit only OS?

Anyway, very very cool video.

Kevin

Maybe a name change for this video too? Singularity 3.5, Singulairty 3 SE, Singulairty 3 R2, I don't think is is quite Singularity 4.





posted by KevinB

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915912980000000 Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:34:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632915912980000000 KevinB Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI posted by TommyCarlier

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632916053540000000 Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:29:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632916053540000000 TommyCarlier Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI
KevinB wrote:
Just watching it here now, very cool.

I notice in the dir listing that it is much more than a flat filesystem, you have listings for chan (channels?) and mem (memory?? very cool), very unix/powershell.




the items marked with 'mem' seem to be normal data files, as opposed to things like directories. one of the items marked 'chan' was 'conout'..

posted by brian.shapiro

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632916272390000000 Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:33:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632916272390000000 brian.shapiro Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI put it on /net ... Smiley What types of hardware Singularity support ??? Systems without MMU alsow supported ???

posted by szhilkin

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917291240000000 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 03:52:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917291240000000 szhilkin Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI
TommyCarlier wrote:
About the UI: Singularity has a web server; couldn't they use the web server as an external UI? I think that would make it very easy, clicking hyperlinks instead of typing in commands. You can very quickly make a file explorer type of application for exploring the file system, the processes, ...


ugg.  Every try managing Windows server with the web admin?  I think I used it once.  I would much rather see a rich set of management endpoints exposed as web services or Indigo endpoints that a rich client could call.

posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917619510000000 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:59:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917619510000000 staceyw Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917620090000000 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:00:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917620090000000 staceyw Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI Looking at your OS it seems like you guys are following  great design path. You guys should definitely start looking into PowerShell integration as firstly PowerShell  is based on .Net Framework and secondly it is also one of the innovative technologies from Microsoft.


It would be really nice to call OS API from command line.

and whenever forget any command , then you can just type get-command *<keyword>* e.g get-command *kill* Tongue Out

posted by rahulv

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917860040000000 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:40:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632917860040000000 rahulv Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI "It looks just like Windows!" - lol Big Smile

posted by czerwinski

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632921225390000000 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:08:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632921225390000000 czerwinski Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI
Angus Higgins

posted by Angus

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632921381320000000 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:28:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632921381320000000 Angus Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI

posted by hans

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632925249680000000 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:56:08 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632925249680000000 hans Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI
First of all, great demo and great coverage on the Singularity project.
I have a question now. I am a brazilian developer and I noticed a sign on the wall written in portuguese (it said "Respeite o turista" which means "Respect the tourist"). So, who brought that sign? I read on the Singurarity page that the team had an intern from Campinas - SP - Brazil. Was he the one that placed that sign there?
Anyways, great work.

posted by Nil100

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632954072560000000 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:34:16 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632954072560000000 Nil100 Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI

posted by ixia

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632978309430000000 Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:49:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632978309430000000 ixia Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI Man, I'd so love to see my web server run on Singularity Big Smile

Out of curiosity, that HTTP server is Cassini, right? How much modification did it take to get it running?

posted by reinux

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632982921460000000 Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:55:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c632982921460000000 reinux Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI posted by Keith J. Farmer

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633061030180000000 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:36:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633061030180000000 Keith J. Farmer Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI posted by erniesparks

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633145039740000000 Fri, 11 May 2007 18:12:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633145039740000000 erniesparks Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI Sing# !? I am looking for Sing# specifications withou success.

 Any link to learn more about Sing#?

 

Genival Carvalho

posted by Genial

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633155622520000000 Thu, 24 May 2007 00:10:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633155622520000000 Genial Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI

I'd love to see more.

posted by reinux

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633287347500000000 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:12:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633287347500000000 reinux Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI Hey!

There are several community managed operating system project around that you can look at:

JOS: Java based OS. It's on SourceForge.
SharpOS: C# OS (The one I am working on), the kernel is written 100% in C# (don't flame me before you actually have a look at it). Also hosted on SourceForge. There is also ONE video on YouTube.
SmallTalk: Has been around for decades. Pick your favourite one.

moitoius

posted by moitoius

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633306661690000000 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:42:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633306661690000000 moitoius Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI PowerShell is, well, a shell. It's sits on top of a kernel. The kernel is what communicates with your hardware (via drivers, interrupts, raw CPU instructions, whatnot).

Singularity is a kernel written in C#, not a shell. Although I can't see why they couldn't use the code from powershell once they have the code in the kernel nailed down and complete.

Jus go to wikipedia and look up kernel and shell...

posted by moitoius

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633306664960000000 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:48:16 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633306664960000000 moitoius Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI
moitoius wrote:

Singularity is a kernel written in C#, not a shell. Although I can't see why they couldn't use the code from powershell once they have the code in the kernel nailed down and complete.


I'd prefer that they don't; PowerShell's design philosophies go in direct opposition against Singularity's (and against .NET/Microsoft's in fact), namely in the fact that the PowerShell team carelessly encourages code to break down at runtime, and they don't honor very basic .NET standards such as Unicode for strings.

Things like this and this are particularly bad.

Jeffrey Snover wrote:
PowerShell Scripts continue to use ".PS1".
...
You might write a .PS1 script which takes advantage of a cmdlet/feature that is only available in V2. If you send this to someone that has PS V1, it will fail "in some way and at some time".

posted by reinux

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633307684610000000 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:07:41 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633307684610000000 reinux Re: Singularity IV: Return of the UI Awesome, Singularity's public!

Does anyone know where a list of commands is?

posted by reinux

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633403063980000000 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:33:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-IV-Return-of-the-UI#c633403063980000000 reinux